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Originally Posted by Dan Druff
You not attributing high blood pressure to genetics is lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by splitthis
You're engaging in 1980s thinking -- when people avoided using salt during dinner because they believed it would cause them high blood pressure.
It's human nature to want to believe we have control over most things health related, where we get rewarded for good behavior while punished for bad behavior. In some ways, that's true. However, in others it is not.
High blood pressure and high cholesterol are very similar in genetics versus lifestyle. Both are primarily due to genetics. If you are genetically predisposed to either, then bad behavior can worsen them, but good behavior will not clear the problem. You need medication for that. Conversely, if you are NOT genetically predisposed, you will not have high levels, even if you eat poorly and don't exercise.
Still doubt me?
Explain this one:
I have a friend who is about the same age as me, similar diet, similar height/weight, similar amount of physical activity, and neither of us have any known major health issues.
He has high cholesterol. My cholesterol is great. He's on medication for cholesterol, I am not.
I have high blood pressure. His is great. I'm on medication for blood pressure, he is not.
How do you explain this? Everything is very similar as far as risk factors, yet we both have extremely different BP and cholesterol levels -- one good, one bad for each of us.
Genetics explains it. With my diet, I should have a terrible cholesterol problem. I don't. In fact, my level is excellent for my age. That's genetics, just as the high BP is also genetic.
Let's look at my brother. Similar height (a little shorter), weighs less than me, four years younger. Guess what? He has great cholesterol, high BP. Coincidence? Of course not. Once again, genetics.
People absolutely hate this fact because it seems unfair and almost arbitrary. But it's true.
Experience has taught me that about 80% of your health is genetics with the rest being lifestyle.
We basically need to ignore "number of cases" right now, because it's almost meaningless. Until there is widespread, easy testing -- which seems quite far away -- the number of cases provides very little useful info.
Number of hospitalizations, number of ICU admissions, and number of deaths are the important numbers now, because those are hard numbers.
Deaths are the farthest behind as far as flattening, because the exact end of the cycle for each patient is either death or recovery. Since death takes 1-3 weeks to reach in most cases, we won't see that figure drop off for a little while longer.
Anyway, from what I've seen, I have faith that the social distancing IS working, which is logical. The next step is to figure out where we go from here, and more importantly, the proper balance between safety and normalcy.
A good ability to test for both the disease and the antibodies would be a great start.
Yes more positive cases but the percentage of those testing positive should decrease.Quote:
Originally Posted by blakei think this is the opposite. the more tests you do, the higher the rate of people confirmed to have it will climb. the hospitalizations and the death rates are reportedly dropping which would indicate a flatteningQuote:
Originally Posted by Salty_Aus
Agree with this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tellafriend
Also, I believe a lot more about each person is genetic than they think, including personality and predisposition to make certain bad choices.
For example, I'd love to take credit for having the intense discipline to avoid drugs and alcohol my whole life. However, that would be false credit. The honest truth is that I never had the desire to get into those things, so there wasn't a temptation to avoid. In fact, many psychological studies have proven a genetic predisposition to drug and alcohol abuse -- as well as the predisposition to NOT do it.
There's many other aspects of you and your entire personality which came from genetics in some way. Sure, your upbringing and experiences shape you, but the biggest factor shaping you is the personality you're born with.
There is no reason to be as fat as Jimmy Fricke and if you're a guy look like a fat old woman.
Druff should hire a personal trainer to show him exactly how to exercise. A good trainer is hard to find because there are lots of bad ones out there. They should also tell you exactly what to eat because whatever you are eating right now, it's no fucking good.
Being 50 to 100 pounds or more overweight is no fucking good plus if you do get the coronavirus, you are not likely to survive.
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Are we posting hot shirtless men in this thread now? Cause I got a shitload of content for you if thats the case.
candace owens tweeting about how the media is to blame for covid hysteria while prisoners dig mass graves outside NYC should be a lesson unto itself in future courses on the state of the american right wing in 2020.
remember how dangerous "vaping" was in late 2019, which coincidentally,like corona, was more common in men than in women hmmmmmm
Lmao, gobert must have been coughing on him on purpose to fk with him
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Originally Posted by sonatine
LOL WHAT A FKN STOOGE, WHAT A GLORIOUS SELF OWN POST
sounds like its standard operating procedure and I even saw something about there being actually 1 covid victim buried there
I got mis directed to the front, glancing at the 1st few pages, DJ Chaps has some posts that aren't going to age well, same w/hockey guy.
I get that you guys watch Fox news, but why taunt this thing?
You can't win, you can only be wrong.
The alt right keeps inserting the # dead in their messages, like it isn't going to change or something.
Like Dr Tgull w/his 12k, and his asinine 'I don't see it' comment, (like he thinks for himself) ,
well now in 3 short days, it has gone up 50 %, we just passed 18k.
I didn't realize though he was in sync w/Dr.'s salt & pepper.
They got suspended from twitter for the same disinformation Dr tgull was spewing.
Diamond and Silk’s Twitter account locked for breaking coronavirus misinformation rules
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...navirus-175914
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Originally Posted by sonatine
really cant make up this timing:
Lifestyle is a stronger determinant of health and life span than genetics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tellafriend
STOP EATING SHIT AND EXERCISE MORE.
If not people are going to start calling you "Gobboboy".
And you will look like ths...
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White House trade adviser Peter Navarro publicly said Americans had "nothing to worry about" while he privately warned the White House that the coronavirus pandemic could cost trillions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of American lives.
classic libtard MSM shill.
Coronavirus is a brilliantly smart germ. Smart and invisible!
Now recovered people are testing positive for the virus again. They aren’t sure if it is reinfection or dormancy return. We just need to get on with life and move on. You either are gonna live or die and we can’t sit at home for a year until they figure it out.
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Originally Posted by splitthis
yeah at first people were worried that its another anthrax situation where its multiple reinfection phases but lately we are wondering if the negative tests are just totally trash.
flip a coin at this point but i got a bad feeling that people who test positive for antibodies are going to literally end up on a real fuckin scary gov list.
Michael Burry MD is married.Quote:
Originally Posted by splitthis
It’s like you two have met though.
It's a different calculation for people who have parents, children, spouse, etc who depend on them.Quote:
Originally Posted by splitthis
Even if they are being reinfected, it isn't clear what the repercussions of this are. It is possible people being infected a second time easily fight it off due to partial acquired immunity, and this boosts their immunity even further, in the same way that some vaccinations require multiple shots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Walter SobchakIt's a different calculation for people who have parents, children, spouse, etc who depend on them.Quote:
Originally Posted by splitthis
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Originally Posted by verminaardEven if they are being reinfected, it isn't clear what the repercussions of this are. It is possible people being infected a second time easily fight it off due to partial acquired immunity, and this boosts their immunity even further, in the same way that some vaccinations require multiple shots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak
you do understand that a person reinfected is able to pass on the virus to uninfected people for weeks if not months?
Coviddating and covidsingles were both taken already. Thought I might get in on ground floor of the plague dating biz if people are testing positive again. The new AIDS dating. One of you people who can develop apps should create tinder for covid positive young people in NYC.
Profound statement. You basically included everyone in the world with the exception of a random bachelor who has dead parents.Quote:
Originally Posted by Walter SobchakIt's a different calculation for people who have parents, children, spouse, etc who depend on them.Quote:
Originally Posted by splitthis
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Originally Posted by tgullProfound statement. You basically included everyone in the world with the exception of a random bachelor who has dead parents.Quote:
Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak
diversity is our strength
trump just confused 'germ' and 'virus' and does not know that antibiotics only work on bacteria apparently.
now would be the time to tell your family you love them.
TRUMP HAS GOT IT FIGURED OUT, FIGURED IT OUT JUST YESTERDAY ACTUALLY
Let's hope that it's a false alarm.Quote:
Originally Posted by MumblesBadlyAren’t you forgetting that I’m still out on the road doing “essential service” in the transportation biz picking up and delivering loads? And I’m obese, have Type II diabetes, high blood pressure, and almost 60. And I just woke up feeling flushed with a slight buzz in my head, usually indicative for me of the onset of a fever. Seriously, get your money in quick before the line becomes untenably lopsided.Quote:
Originally Posted by Krypt
Can't you isolate yourself more in the cab with minimal contact? Mini fridge? Bathroom issue is challenging. I know that you guys don't generally load or unload.
At any rate, here's an article about truckers that you may find interesting and thanks to all truck drivers who have made this self-isolation go a lot easier.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...work-from-home
Are they? Has this been demonstrated at all? It is entirely possible people being reinfected are not particularly infectious themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatineQuote:
Originally Posted by verminaard
you do understand that a person reinfected is able to pass on the virus to uninfected people for weeks if not months?
if someone is reinfected to some sub-clinical asymptomatic level and their adaptive memory immune system is able to quickly clear it, it is actually more likely than not they won’t be very infectious. This could even be the case if there is some latent low level of viral replication.
I don’t know this is happening of course. These are all things we have to find out.
My contact with others is minimal, and at have yet to see anyone out here coughing when out of the truck to fetch food or hit the bathroom. Most people out here are keeping their distance from each other, including personnel at shippers and receivers and at truck stops. Also, truck stops have taken a lot of steps to keep people from standing too close to each other, minimizing contact with customers, as well as the staff frequently disinfecting surfaces in the store and bathrooms.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnCommodeLet's hope that it's a false alarm.Quote:
Originally Posted by MumblesBadly
Can't you isolate yourself more in the cab with minimal contact? Mini fridge? Bathroom issue is challenging. I know that you guys don't generally load or unload.
At any rate, here's an article about truckers that you may find interesting and thanks to all truck drivers who have made this self-isolation go a lot easier.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...work-from-home
Probably my biggest risk of exposure is when I restock my foodstuffs for the truck at Walmart, as I keep the truck well stocked with soups and other canned foods, as we’ll as some perishables I keep cold in a Yeti cooler. But even there, people are keeping their distance, and when I first enter the store, I immediately go into the bathroom after getting a cart to wash my hands and also get soapy water-drenched paper towels from there to disinfect the shopping cart handle.
I’ve also fashioned a makeshift mask with a ladies hairband and coffee filters, but need to instead get some bandanas and hair ties to make to make better fitting and thicker ones. And I have a spray bottle with soapy water that I’m also using to periodically wipe down areas of the inside of the truck can within easy reach that I tend to touch a lot, as well as clean my hands and phone.
Now, if only Congress can pass another relief bill with the provision floated by Schumer a few days ago to have truckers (and other “front line essential workers”) during this crisis get $25 grand in “hazard pay”, I’ll be out of the red from betting against Tine-God’s earlier predictions about the death count over/under from way early in this thread. I know I’m probably more likely to hit a hard eight at craps on a single roll than for such a “hazard pay” bonanza to reach my bank account, but a man’s gotta dream! Amirite?
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Originally Posted by MumblesBadlyMy contact with others is minimal, and at have yet to see anyone out here coughing when out of the truck to fetch food or hit the bathroom. Most people out here are keeping their distance from each other, including personnel at shippers and receivers and at truck stops. Also, truck stops have taken a lot of steps to keep people from standing too close to each other, minimizing contact with customers, as well as the staff frequently disinfecting surfaces in the store and bathrooms.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnCommode
Probably my biggest risk of exposure is when I restock my foodstuffs for the truck at Walmart, as I keep the truck well stocked with soups and other canned foods, as we’ll as some perishables I keep cold in a Yeti cooler. But even there, people are keeping their distance, and when I first enter the store, I immediately go into the bathroom after getting a cart to wash my hands and also get soapy water-drenched paper towels from there to disinfect the shopping cart handle.
I’ve also fashioned a makeshift mask with a ladies hairband and coffee filters, but need to instead get some bandanas and hair ties to make to make better fitting and thicker ones. And I have a spray bottle with soapy water that I’m also using to periodically wipe down areas of the inside of the truck can within easy reach that I tend to touch a lot, as well as clean my hands and phone.
Now, if only Congress can pass another relief bill with the provision floated by Schumer a few days ago to have truckers (and other “front line essential workers”) during this crisis get $25 grand in “hazard pay”, I’ll be out of the red from betting against Tine-God’s earlier predictions about the death count over/under from way early in this thread. I know I’m probably more likely to hit a hard eight at craps on a single roll than for such a “hazard pay” bonanza to reach my bank account, but a man’s gotta dream! Amirite?
If you are a type 2 diabetic and obese the chances are extreme you are near death's door regardless of any virus. Here is an idea, eat 1,400 calories a day and spend your evenings walking at the truck stops you park at for some type of exercise. Stop stuffing yourself with Doritos and that garbage behind the glass at a Pilot. You are your own worst enemy. Don't blame the COVID-19 if you get clipped you were destined to die from something if you are obese/diabetic/60. It's called life pal or in your case death.
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Originally Posted by verminaardAre they? Has this been demonstrated at all? It is entirely possible people being reinfected are not particularly infectious themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
if someone is reinfected to some sub-clinical asymptomatic level and their adaptive memory immune system is able to quickly clear it, it is actually more likely than not they won’t be very infectious. This could even be the case if there is some latent low level of viral replication.
I don’t know this is happening of course. These are all things we have to find out.
ebola is biphasic with the secondary symptomatic phase being fully capable of spreading.
your 'these are all things we have to find out' fox news flavored non-science is embarrassing.
please do better. google is right fucking there, bring yourself up to speed.
you have a lot of catching up to do.
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Originally Posted by verminaard
ebola is biphasic with the secondary symptomatic phase being fully capable of spreading.
your 'these are all things we have to find out' fox news flavored non-science is embarrassing.
please do better. google is right fucking there, bring yourself up to speed.
you have a lot of catching up to do.
Ebola can be spread through direct contact with an infected person, which most often occurs at a burial ceremony where mourners touch recently deceased victims. Exposure to Infected Body Fluids. Another way that the spread of Ebola may occur involves direct contact with the blood or secretions of an infected person.
There was a reason Ebola did not spread. No funeral I have ever been at were people touching corpses. This virus is quite different. And it looks like it is petering out. How we went from 2.2 million deaths last month to a trend of under 70,000, just a hard case of the flu when all said and done. You don't hear about ventilator shortages anymore that much is clear.
we'll see how this all shakes out when OSA starts riding the subway again. that'll answer some questions.
do it for the economy, OSA.
yes agreed. Get out there OSA. Put your money where your mouth is.
OSA could singlehandedly not only answer questions for the forum but the national consciousness. This is how you get donations for the next Vegas trip that is for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
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Originally Posted by tgullOSA could singlehandedly not only answer questions for the forum but the national consciousness. This is how you get donations for the next Vegas trip that is for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
id gladly match that donation if he would get to the bottom of this whole respirator-gate situation. we now know that c19 is basically harmless against someone of his strength and appetites. all we need from him is a positive test and a fake cough to find out exactly whats going on in those suspiciously well funded treatment tents.
Most people here couldn't look like gobboboy if they tried.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheXFactorLifestyle is a stronger determinant of health and life span than genetics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tellafriend
STOP EATING SHIT AND EXERCISE MORE.
If not people are going to start calling you "Gobboboy".
And you will look like ths...
https://alchetron.com/cdn/jimmy-fric...esize-750.jpeg
You can't get as big as gobboboy unless you're predisposed to obesity. Now, some of that is within your control. It's much tougher than for normal people, but even those with gobbo's genetics can be a normal weight if they put major effort into it. However, you'd be foolish to state that gobbo had the same genetic chance to be obese as everyone else.