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she’s all yoursQuote:
Originally Posted by BetCheckBet
I'd be interested and very grateful (but if someone more serious to the game wants her go ahead please).Quote:
Originally Posted by WillieMcFML
post your stable address and I’ll ship her over - if you don’t already have one you need to make an account with zed
thanks Willie please check PMs
reply sent check pm's pleaseQuote:
Originally Posted by BetCheckBet
Misty Reign is on her way and just in time for the free races
put her in a bunch of different distances and see what she does
good luck BCB
Thanks excited to try it out. I’m pretty certain Solana nfts are a bust at this point so will be nice to switch over to this.Quote:
Originally Posted by WillieMcFML
They've adjusted the minimum breeding fees:
https://twitter.com/ZedGuruOfficial/...97674833383432Quote:
Time to make ponies, not war!
With the price of ETH skyrocketing, minimum breeding fees have risen to nearly double what they were when we last made an adjustment in mid-July. As a result, we are now:
✅ Calculating breeding fees in terms of a set USD value
✅ Adjusting minimum fees to match the original USD value
For full information on the adjusted minimum fees, check out our guide.
Important note: All racehorses will shortly be removed from the stud farm as a result of this update, but can be placed immediately back into the stud farm as normal.
Looking to the future: Protecting the rarity of bloodlines and genotypes in ZED RUN is important. As a result, the team is exploring more dynamic changes to the structure of minimum breeding fees. More information on this will come in a future update.
We may make additional changes to breeding fees if we see large changes in the price of ETH.
Big improvement, but I'm worried about this nonsense regarding "dynamic changes to the structure of minimum breeding fees" coming up. They need to let the free market take care of this, and back off.
So I was all excited to see Misty win her first race. Until I realized the free races only increase your rank and not drop it. so now she's stuck in class 4 with no way to drop ranks unless I pay real money to lose numerous times before she falls back to her proper class 5. Pretty frustrating. Hopefully the developers have a way to correct such a system.
I wish I would have paid more attention to this comment...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
It also seems that the optimal way to be successful in this game is to sandbag.
so zed changed the algo without telling anyone
people also noticed language slipped into the terms and conditions that gate preference could effect the outcome
they have the built the greatest game but their communication is woefully inadequate
Any theories yet regarding which gates are better?Quote:
Originally Posted by WillieMcFML
I know gates 1 and 12 are the least popular choices, presumably for aesthetics reasons.
So are you guys making money on this or just having fun ?
If any of you like management games this soccer manager game is about to have the public release in 3 1/2 hours
It's .05 Eth to mint each football club, game launches in q1 2022 could be big if they can manage to make it a work.
I bought 2 clubs already in the first wave of mints will probably get another 3 today. Even if you have no interest in playing a soccer manager game you will likely be able to sell your club for more than you paid once game is launched.
https://footium.club/
All football players will be NFTs and your club will make new ones every year, a few if the massive accounts from sorare are onto this already so definitely money to be made imo.
They have sold 1/3k total clubs already so that's not much supply if the game takes off.
each horse is minted with a specific gate preferenceQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffAny theories yet regarding which gates are better?Quote:
Originally Posted by WillieMcFML
I know gates 1 and 12 are the least popular choices, presumably for aesthetics reasons.
there isn’t any proof they’ve activated it yet, but someone did notice it was slipped into the TOC’s very recently
Edit: the gate preference might work like distance preference to where you run better closest to that preferred gate and run worse the farther you are away from it so it could take some serious discovery to dial it in
I will add this as someone who has played online management games since 1997.
Why the hell isn’t this just cash?
I don’t wanna waste my time calculating how much 0.017 eth is each day. I don’t wanna get stuck with gas fees. Just make everything usd and let me buy with my credit card.
I suppose the idea is as an nft it gives you complete control of how you handle your horse outside of the game. But if developers have full control of games rules and can adjust things as they wish that seems like a moot point.
But maybe that’s because I look at this as more of a game than investment. Would love to hear reasons how using crypto here makes it better than straight up cash. I’m assuming legality is probably an issue too.
Projekt SEP might be a good one for me to use to experiment here.Quote:
Originally Posted by WillieMcFMLeach horse is minted with a specific gate preferenceQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
there isn’t any proof they’ve activated it yet, but someone did notice it was slipped into the TOC’s very recently
Edit: the gate preference might work like distance preference to where you run better closest to that preferred gate and run worse the farther you are away from it so it could take some serious discovery to dial it in
He was pwning heads until a few days ago, and now he's constantly losing.
Starting 11/16 (is that when the new TOS took effect?), he stopped flaming at Class IV $5 distance races as much, and also started losing even when he did flame. Prior to that, it was a flame almost every time, and he frequently showed (and won at a nice clip).
Here's the races he's done since then, all $5 at Class IV. All listed in format length/flame/place/gate/better top 3 (Y/N)
2400m/N/2/7/Y
2400m/N/8/9/Y
2400m/N/10/9/N
2200m/Y/3/4/Y
2400m/N/1/9/N
2200m/Y/4/8/N
2600m/N/8/8/Y
2400m/Y/5/7/N
2400m/N/7/7/N
2400m/N/8/7/N
2200m/Y/8/6/N
2200m/Y/11/9/N
2200m/Y/5/4/N
2400m/Y/8/9/N
2200m/Y/4/8/N
Clearly he flames more at 2200 than 2400 and 2600.
However, looking at where he was one of the best 3 horses and didn't flame, he was at gates 9 and 7 twice. He flamed at game 4 once when there were better horses who didnt't flame. He flamed as expected when at gates 4, 5, 6, 8 twice, and 9 twice. He didn't flame when you'd expect he wouldn't at gates 7, 8, and 9.
Can I conclude anything from this? Not really. It does look possible that gates 4-6 are better than 7-9, since he over-flamed at 4, under-flamed at 7 and 9 twice, and flamed as expected at 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 thrilce and 9 thrice.
Sample size is small though.
i have a horse seems like his plateau was Class 2 im realizing. Class 1 has never got a fire so isnt projecting well vs. the Class 1 fields, hasn't podiumed but once i think a 3rd, competition got way harder, 2 days ago in a Free race because of the Tournament its got the great horses in it. I raced LBJ Goat and Artois in one Race they finished 1/2 lol..... i think i was 6/7/8 something so not bad run it 10000 times i dont hate Mean Girls shot, for being a z13 Elite Bute also, anyway Competition which should be expected gets noticeably more the higher Classes you goQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffProjekt SEP might be a good one for me to use to experiment here.Quote:
Originally Posted by WillieMcFML
He was pwning heads until a few days ago, and now he's constantly losing.
Starting 11/16 (is that when the new TOS took effect?), he stopped flaming at Class IV $5 distance races as much, and also started losing even when he did flame. Prior to that, it was a flame almost every time, and he frequently showed (and won at a nice clip).
Here's the races he's done since then, all $5 at Class IV. All listed in format length/flame/place/gate/better top 3 (Y/N)
2400m/N/2/7/Y
2400m/N/8/9/Y
2400m/N/10/9/N
2200m/Y/3/4/Y
2400m/N/1/9/N
2200m/Y/4/8/N
2600m/N/8/8/Y
2400m/Y/5/7/N
2400m/N/7/7/N
2400m/N/8/7/N
2200m/Y/8/6/N
2200m/Y/11/9/N
2200m/Y/5/4/N
2400m/Y/8/9/N
2200m/Y/4/8/N
Clearly he flames more at 2200 than 2400 and 2600.
However, looking at where he was one of the best 3 horses and didn't flame, he was at gates 9 and 7 twice. He flamed at game 4 once when there were better horses who didnt't flame. He flamed as expected when at gates 4, 5, 6, 8 twice, and 9 twice. He didn't flame when you'd expect he wouldn't at gates 7, 8, and 9.
Can I conclude anything from this? Not really. It does look possible that gates 4-6 are better than 7-9, since he over-flamed at 4, under-flamed at 7 and 9 twice, and flamed as expected at 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 thrilce and 9 thrice.
Sample size is small though.
BCB
Please don’t feel like you have to keep and run misty forever
the whole point of giving her away was just to give someone an entry to zedrun
so if you can sell her to move into a better horse do it
No worries. I’m curious about running horses in these free races. Are we not just artificially boosting them outside of their desired class? Since you can’t lose points like a normal race?Quote:
Originally Posted by WillieMcFML
I still feel misty may have some chance in mile runs. Plus she has good genes I believe. But yes trying to decide whether to breed her or buy new horse altogether.
You should absolutely not do the free races now. Almost all the horses who try will get no benefit, and will just end up classing up where they don't belong.Quote:
Originally Posted by BetCheckBetNo worries. I’m curious about running horses in these free races. Are we not just artificially boosting them outside of their desired class? Since you can’t lose points like a normal race?Quote:
Originally Posted by WillieMcFML
I still feel misty may have some chance in mile runs. Plus she has good genes I believe. But yes trying to decide whether to breed her or buy new horse altogether.
In general, once you find a horse which can win at a certain length and buyin, the model should be this:
- Keep racing at that length and class where you win
- Once you move up classes, enter into $2.50 races at the length your horse does worst, and keep losing until you class back down
This has gotten harder with the point system changes, but you can still do it. But yeah, avoid the free races.
i can help you do bothQuote:
Originally Posted by BetCheckBetNo worries. I’m curious about running horses in these free races. Are we not just artificially boosting them outside of their desired class? Since you can’t lose points like a normal race?Quote:
Originally Posted by WillieMcFML
I still feel misty may have some chance in mile runs. Plus she has good genes I believe. But yes trying to decide whether to breed her or buy new horse altogether.
https://knowyourhorses.com/horses/95270
Rick Ankiel doesn't have the best stats but that's because i ran him wrong - i only found out through free races that his best distances are 2400 & 2600
the problem is the free races classed him up all the way to class 2 - i've classed him down to class 3 but he really needs to be in either class 4 or 5 so it'll cost you maybe $30 or so to get him there
i'll sell him to you for $40 if you want - that way you can breed him with misty if you like and he should do well as a class 5 or 4 marathoner
i think your best bet is to spend .05 eth (about $200) on an unraced horse - you can buy horses that cost me almost $1k two months ago for that - like exclusive nakas or szabos fillies with a Z less than 10
BCB gets first right of refusal, but if he passes the offer for Rink Ankiel is open to anyone
if no one wants to buy him for $40, maybe we can create a pfa freeroll tournament for those interested
winner gets big dick rick
dang 80% loss of value in 2 months thats pretty grim, whats the main cause of that you reckon willie and do you think this decline is terminal ?
having a class system with an optimal strat that forces you to lose races and class down sounds absolutely terrible btw id say that prob be a part of why prices crashed
They just killed the rake from the paid races.
Nice to see, but they have a long way to go to fix the ecosystem.
Do you take Solana?Quote:
Originally Posted by WillieMcFMLi can help you do bothQuote:
Originally Posted by BetCheckBet
https://knowyourhorses.com/horses/95270
Rick Ankiel doesn't have the best stats but that's because i ran him wrong - i only found out through free races that his best distances are 2400 & 2600
the problem is the free races classed him up all the way to class 2 - i've classed him down to class 3 but he really needs to be in either class 4 or 5 so it'll cost you maybe $30 or so to get him there
i'll sell him to you for $40 if you want - that way you can breed him with misty if you like and he should do well as a class 5 or 4 marathoner
i think your best bet is to spend .05 eth (about $200) on an unraced horse - you can buy horses that cost me almost $1k two months ago for that - like exclusive nakas or szabos fillies with a Z less than 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by BetCheckBetDo you take Solana?Quote:
Originally Posted by WillieMcFML
sure do - address below if you want ankiel
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done
big dick rick is on his wayQuote:
Originally Posted by BetCheckBet
i think you'll enjoy racing him more than misty - you can breed them on december 4th if you wanted to
good luck!
For Rick I said 2400-2600 but his best distance might be 2200. He’s pulling flames 60% of the time there
Projekt SEP is like that, as well. He's a marathon horse, but his best length by far is 2200.Quote:
Originally Posted by WillieMcFML
Similarly, Ptarmigan can win at 1000-1400, but is best at 1400. Catfish can also win from 1000-1400, but her best lengths are 1000-1200.
Then you also have to figure out what class and $ amount your horse performs best, and try to stick to that (except to class down).
https://guide.zed.run/zed-run-guide/..._content=guide
New Zed Run Tournament that’s rewards finishing 4th
BCB - misty and Rick might be great for this
this tournament presents a great time to try to downclass your horses in paid races
Oh shit, time to fire up my new horse "Clown Show" for this one
This is actually great if you have some horses stuck up a class or two from the first tourney
because to get into the tourney you need a lot of mid finishes, but once in the tournament it’s normal racing again
Ok sounds like good time to run them.
If I decide to keep playing I'll likely breed them and try that horse in paid races.
What is best way to get credit into the account with minimal gas fees?
the Umbria network - it’ll save you a ton on gas feesQuote:
Originally Posted by BetCheckBet
just go to their website and click on the narnia bride and you can convert eth to weth
Misty is done at 11 point average and stuck in class three pretty much finishing bottom three every race.
Rick has somewhat of a shot. After 22 races he is averaging 32 points. Unfortunately he just levelled to class 1 so unsure if he can hold his average points to 30 races. Also with more and more horses qualifying I wouldn't be surprised if you need to average 35 plus points a race to have any shot of moving on.
Catfish with 37 points through 17 races, mostly thanks to an epic slump at $5 Class V races, despite firing almost every time.
Unfortunately looks like Rick has gone from 5th-2nd places finished is class two to 8-10th in class one. I don;t feel like paying to have him drop back down to class 2 but that seems to be the optimum way to do well in these tourneys.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff