Who the F cares? Just don't watch,Quote:
Originally Posted by Deal
if your goal in life is to break the MLB. good luck.
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Who the F cares? Just don't watch,Quote:
Originally Posted by Deal
if your goal in life is to break the MLB. good luck.
Funny, I was about to say some of the best baseball for me as of late has been via radio.....Vancouver Canadians (single A) broadcasts are very good. It's all about theatre of the mind....blah, blah, blah. Baseball is a bit like golf, if you're into it i.e. playing it, then it's addictive.
Number of runs the Giants scored against the Dodgers this weekend:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V3CfD8TPac
:lol
First time since 1957 that the Dodgers have shut out the Giants twice in a row while in the Giants' home park.
Yes, I realize the Dodgers got shut out 3 times in a row last time they visited SF, but they had no Kemp, no Ethier, and basically fielded a minor league lineup.
Anyway, good job, Giants. Chunked off a 3-game lead while facing the Dodgers on your home field. You could have been 6 games up if the series went the other way.
Relax, it wasn't too long ago the Giants were 6 games back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
We didn't have Pablo this series, and Either did in fact play in all 3 games when the G's shut them out, so not sure what you mean there.
The momentum has switched back to LA, and $$$ the new ownership is willing to spend has drawn first blood, I'll give you that, but there is still 60 to go, and 9 games heads up, Pablo will be back and SF's pitching is still better.
Druff is like the Baghdad Bob of Dodgers fans.
"Everything is great! We have just defeated the infidels! Praise be to Mohammed Kemp!"
Never around when buildings are being bombed and body parts are all over the place, but shows up right when a small victory is scored.
I have to derail this thread to mention how stoked that the halos have picked up Greinke to go with Weaver, Wilson and a healthy Haren. Hopefully Santana can cut it in the pen.
Sweeping the hated Giants (and first place team) to move into a first place tie is no small victory. Especially when they did it in San Francisco.Quote:
Originally Posted by NaturalBornHustler
You're right, Ethier was there, but there was no Kemp or Mark Ellis. And I believe Ethier was already struggling, on the way to being on the DL.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyG_415Relax, it wasn't too long ago the Giants were 6 games back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
We didn't have Pablo this series, and Either did in fact play in all 3 games when the G's shut them out, so not sure what you mean there.
The momentum has switched back to LA, and $$$ the new ownership is willing to spend has drawn first blood, I'll give you that, but there is still 60 to go, and 9 games heads up, Pablo will be back and SF's pitching is still better.
Anyway, I like the Dodgers' chances, even if SF's pitching is a little better.
ESPN also puts the Dodgers' chances at making the playoffs higher than SF, if you look at their standings today.
Victorino to the Dodgers.
Pence to the Giants
I just read Ethier was hurt, so w/Ellis yeah that hardly resembles the same team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffYou're right, Ethier was there, but there was no Kemp or Mark Ellis. And I believe Ethier was already struggling, on the way to being on the DL.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyG_415
Anyway, I like the Dodgers' chances, even if SF's pitching is a little better.
ESPN also puts the Dodgers' chances at making the playoffs higher than SF, if you look at their standings today.
LA's bats are better for sure, and SF pitching probably is, but the difference between the bats is much bigger than the dif in pitching, so if you could get action today, I could see why LA would be favored.
I think that sweep was the trigger to get Hunter Pence.
Its like the Dodgers are flexing their bankroll, and the Giants are (or hopefully were) trying to figure out the least possible they can spend, and still win the division by 1 game.
I'm actually jealous today.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyG_415I just read Ethier was hurt, so w/Ellis yeah that hardly resembles the same team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
LA's bats are better for sure, and SF pitching probably is, but the difference between the bats is much bigger than the dif in pitching, so if you could get action today, I could see why LA would be favored.
I think that sweep was the trigger to get Hunter Pence.
Its like the Dodgers are flexing their bankroll, and the Giants are (or hopefully were) trying to figure out the least possible they can spend, and still win the division by 1 game.
I would much rather have Pence than Victorino. Always thought Victorino was overrated.
However, the combo of Ramirez/Victorino is better than Pence, so the Dodgers still improved themselves more than the Giants overall.
Will be interesting down the stretch.
I would say the Angels improved the most so far, simply by adding Grienke at a moderate price, but the Dodgers are a close second. a top 5 in the order of Victorino, Ellis, Kemp, Ethier, Ramirez can be solid enough to win in the playoffs. I still think the D'Backs are gonna be in it til the end though, and I'm not sure any west team will get a wild card. Should be fun to watch.
You guys just landed Blanton.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffI'm actually jealous today.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyG_415
I would much rather have Pence than Victorino. Always thought Victorino was overrated.
However, the combo of Ramirez/Victorino is better than Pence, so the Dodgers still improved themselves more than the Giants overall.
Will be interesting down the stretch.
What a clusterfuck of a year for the Phillies.
Go Eagles!
And the Dodgers put in a waiver claim for Lee. I doubt anything will happen, but I wouldn't be completely shocked to see the Phils let him walk. Maybe a trade will be worked out.Quote:
Originally Posted by vegas1369You guys just landed Blanton.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
What a clusterfuck of a year for the Phillies.
Go Eagles!
If Philly put Lee on waivers doesn't that mean they are still trying to trade him?Quote:
Originally Posted by gutAnd the Dodgers put in a waiver claim for Lee. I doubt anything will happen, but I wouldn't be completely shocked to see the Phils let him walk. Maybe a trade will be worked out.Quote:
Originally Posted by vegas1369
Yes. You can pull a player back from waivers once, after that he can be claimed by anyone with no trade.Quote:
Originally Posted by herbertstempleIf Philly put Lee on waivers doesn't that mean they are still trying to trade him?Quote:
Originally Posted by gut
Doesn't the player have to sit on the waver wire 24 hours unclaimed before he can be traded to whoever a team is trying to make a deal with?Quote:
Originally Posted by vegas1369Yes. You can pull a player back from waivers once, after that he can be claimed by anyone with no trade.Quote:
Originally Posted by herbertstemple
Basically yes. So in this instance, they can only negotiate a trade with the Dodgers, and they have until Sunday. Or they could let him just go, although apparently Amaro said he's not doing that.Quote:
Originally Posted by herbertstempleDoesn't the player have to sit on the waver wire 24 hours unclaimed before he can be traded to whoever a team is trying to make a deal with?Quote:
Originally Posted by vegas1369
Many times in these scenarios, teams make the waiver claim merely as a way to block a potential trade to a competing team. With high-priced aging veterans, this can backfire as, again, the old team can just award you the claim and you have to take the player.
This happened a couple times to the White Sox in the last 5 years with Alex Rios and Manny Ramirez. Rios has worked out well for them, and they may have actually wanted him. Ramirez they certainly didn't, and were just trying to block a trade.
As a Giant fan I can say w/all my heart Vin Scully is just the best,
Here is he is translating Jim Tracy, which anyone can tell is throwing out F bombs left and right, into a PG version.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44L0vIBcZjY
Dodgers took 2 of 3 from the slipping Marlins, but more importantly sprayed over 10 hits in each of the three games.
Victorino, who I always felt was overrated, isn't going to make much of an impact. Blanton is an innings-eater, and will really only serve to avoid the Dodgers having to use a minor league pitcher du jour to fill the 5th pitching spot.
Hanley Ramirez is looking pretty good so far, and you can tell that he's enjoying his new team. That's important for an emotional player like Hanley.
Giants are finally hitting, so the Dodgers are going to have to play some pretty good baseball to win the division. I think it's going to be a close race to the finish.