lol drk star relax man, you don't have to defend every cop.
take a break.
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lol drk star relax man, you don't have to defend every cop.
take a break.
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Originally Posted by SysOp
did I say I was defending EVERY cop. Some are dicks. They need to be removed. Find them and prosecute them. BUT, dont punish the cops that are doing their jobs.
and Im capitalizing words to give them emphasis. Its not a tilt rant. Im trying to give a very detailed explanation of the shit show that is going on.
no one cares....but its headed your way. Baltimore and Chicago are the first to go. The States attorney down in Baltimore is fucking up that trial right now. She is in over her head.
Just adding this here, rather than bumping this thread again:
Current stats for past few years, for the first week of the year in Chicago:
Jan 1-7, 2016:
Shot & Killed: 12
Shot & Wounded: 66
Total Shot: 78
Total Homicides: 12
Jan 1-7, 2015:
Shot & Killed: 5
Shot & Wounded: 33
Total Shot: 38
Total Homicides: 7
Jan 1-7, 2014*:
Shot & Killed: 2
Shot & Wounded: 16
Total Shot: 18
Total Homicides: 3
* Polar Vortex & 4 were shot and wounded by CPD on New Year's Day
Gallo just whipped up some good stuff the other day. Barbacoa, with scrambled eggs, jalepeno and I think onion. Puede cocinar.
DRK Star is god and the Luther Mississippi of this forum.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZeE9ULax-4
just going to leave this here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBB7DolmQPY
bonus... enjoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FDlcwU-uZs
Emanuel seeks OK for $3 billion in new borrowing
WRITTEN BY FRAN SPIELMAN POSTED: 01/07/2016, 05:25PM
Mayor Rahm Emanuel is asking the City Council to approve $3 billion in new borrowing, by far the biggest of his tenure.
Seven months ago, aldermen reluctantly agreed to authorize a $1.1 billion borrowing after being told the city’s junk bond rating demanded it. The money was used to continue Emanuel’s debt restructuring plan and move away from risky financial practices that former Mayor Richard M. Daley used to “mask” the true cost of city government.
On Monday, the Finance Committee will be asked to approve a kitchen sink borrowing that’s nearly triple that size. It includes:
$1.25 billion in general-obligation bonds backed by property taxes. The money includes $700 million to bankroll the city’s annual capital program for 2016 and 2017. G.O. bonds will also be used to eliminate the costly practice of “scoop-and-toss” borrowing, with those restructurings totaling $123 million this year, $139 million next year and $73 million in 2018.
$900 million in Midway Airport bonds to refund existing debt, restructure bonds used to build a rental car facility and to bankroll Emanuel’s $248 million plan to confront the Southwest Side airport’s biggest weaknesses and passenger annoyances: parking, security and concessions.
$700 million in water revenue bonds that, chief financial officer Carole Brown said, mark the “last variable rate conversion” involved in terminating complex deals known as swap contracts dating back to Daley’s tenure. When its bond rating fell below investment grade, Chicago could have faced paying billions to bankers under terms of those complex deals.
$200 million in sales tax revenue bonds that includes $75 million for the treasured menu program that allocates $1.32 million yearly to each of the city’s 50 wards to spend on infrastructure repairs of the local alderman’s choosing.
It’s the first time that the menu program has not been financed by property taxes, and it could be part of a trend.
“Sales tax bonds are higher-rated that G.O. bonds. It would be cheaper to fund it using the sales tax,” Brown said. “I want to see what the benefit really is and whether that should be part of the city’s long-term strategy to try and fund capital from sources other than the property tax to preserve our levy and improve our rating. We have a lot of debt on the property tax. I’d like to diversify our portfolio.”
Emanuel argued Thursday that the massive borrowing is tailor-made to execute the plan he outlined to the Civic Federation after the election.
“It’s actually what the rating agencies wanted to see us do — to strengthen Chicago’s finances rather than leaving it vulnerable,” the mayor said.
“It’s following through on a commitment. The worst thing you could do is make a pledge, then not do it.”
Ald. John Arena (45th) questioned Emanuel’s kitchen sink approach at a time when the city’s debt rating has already cost Chicago taxpayers tens of millions of dollars in added borrowing costs.
“We passed a budget that said there was a schedule we were going to do this on, and now we’re accelerating that schedule and front-loading everything,” Arena said.
“The bond rating agencies still have us at junk status, and yet we’re issuing an excessive amount of debt. I want to let the market reset. We’ve made moves to increase our bond rating. We passed a huge property tax increase for police and fire pensions. We ought to let that sink into the market and get our bond rating up a little bit.”
Ald. Scott Waguespack (32nd) was equally skeptical.
“They’re bundling together so much of this when they don’t need to. They want upfront authority to have all of this done now so [they] can put it out on the market at their convenience,” Waguespack said.
Waguespack questioned why Midway bonds total $900 million when the improvements outlined by Emanuel carried a price tag less than one-third that size.
“There’s no plan other than, ‘Please give us a blank check.’ It’s not transparent, and it’s not even planning as we should be doing,” he said.
Civic Federation President Laurence Msall questioned whether the record borrowing is “the most efficient structure” for Chicago taxpayers.
“A $3 billion bond program is the largest the city has ever offered, and it’s coming at a time when the city’s credit rating is at an all-time worst since the Chicago fire,” Msall said.
“The key question is, what other alternative has the city considered rather than offering such a large amount of debt at a time when its credit rating is at a historic low? It’s understandable that the city wants to get out from under variable rate debt and scoop and toss. But this is a change from the plan the mayor outlined” in April.
Msall has been urging the mayor for years to get rid of the aldermanic menu program. He was disappointed when the mayor chose the political path of least resistance.
“Moving from the property tax to the sales tax for the menu program doesn’t make it more affordable, nor does it make it [a] good use of limited tax dollars,” he said.
“The entire capital spending program should be based on prioritizing the highest and best needs of the city — not projects to be named later by aldermen using their own criteria.”
Over the years, aldermen have been harshly criticized for signing off on massive borrowings without asking tough questions. That’s likely to change now that Emanuel has been wounded politically by his handling of the Laquan McDonald shooting video.
http://www.theonion.com/article/chic...view:1:Default
Chicago Police Department To Monitor All Interactions With Public Using New Bullet Cams
CHICAGO—In response to calls for increased transparency and accountability, the Chicago Police Department announced Friday that it will begin monitoring all interactions with the public by using new bullet cams. “To ensure that all contact between law enforcement officers and residents is properly documented, five megapixel, high-definition cameras will be affixed to our standard-grade 9mm Luger caliber ammunition,” said Chicago Police Department Interim Superintendent John Escalante, adding that the bullet cams will capture the majority of public interactions and store them in a database. “We’ve invested heavily to modernize our police force and hope that the initiative will eliminate any misunderstandings between citizens and law enforcement.” When asked whether the public would have access to the footage, a Chicago police spokesperson had no comment.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/08/us/laq...p-allegations/Quote:
Attorneys: Chicago cops falsified witnesses' accounts, threatened them
Chicago (CNN)At least three witnesses to the Laquan McDonald police killing were questioned for hours, threatened by officers and ordered to change their accounts to match the official Chicago police version of the shooting, the attorneys for the teen's estate say.
The allegations are contained in more than 3,000 pages of recently released documents related to the case. The attorneys also allege that police officers up the chain of command fabricated witness accounts to support the way officers at the scene described the October 20, 2014, shooting as justified.
"It's not just the officers on the street," attorney Jeffrey Neslund told CNN. "It's a lieutenant, a sergeant and detectives -- and the lengths they went to justify what simply was not true."
CNN contacted Neslund and Michael Robbins after the city released the documents to the news media in response to multiple Freedom of Information Act requests.
Asked if they stood by the accusations they made in letters to the city's corporation counsel last March, Robbins said, "Absolutely."
"You have a false narrative put out by police," he said, "outright lies to cover up an illegal shooting, corroborated by other officers."
CNN asked the Chicago Police Department for a reaction to the allegations. "This is the first time I'm hearing of that allegation," spokesman Anthony Guglielmi said. "But this is why we want an independent investigation to look at every fact. But unfortunately, we're not able to comment on any specific incident."
CNN legal analyst Joey Jackson said the allegations made by Neslund and Robbins are a significant development.
"In the event that it's true, you have multiple underlying charges: intimidating witnesses, falsifying public records and you have a conspiracy that more than one person was involved," Jackson said. "This has the potential of taking down a lot of people in that police department."
"The issue then becomes how high of a level does this go: Who knew about this?"
Mayor Rahm Emanuel's office declined to make the mayor available for an interview but issued the following statement to CNN regarding these allegations:
"The police actions surrounding this shooting are under investigation by the U.S. Department of Justice for possible criminal charges, and by the city's Inspector General for possible disciplinary action. The public deserves answers to a number of important questions in this case, and we eagerly await the findings of those investigations."
Police Officer Jason Van Dyke, 37, was charged with first-degree murder in late November in the killing of McDonald, 17. The officer pleaded not guilty in December and is free on bail. His attorney has said he feared for his life before he opened fire, shooting the teen 16 times.
At least five officers at the scene, including Van Dyke's partner, backed up his account that McDonald lunged at him. "When McDonald got to within 12 to 15 feet of the officers, he swung the knife toward the officers in an aggressive manner," Van Dyke's partner said in an official police report.
But a police dashcam video shows McDonald walking down South Pulaski Road with a knife in his hand, heading away from officers. The city fought the video's release for 13 months. Van Dyke was charged just hours before it was made public.
Attorneys: Witness said an officer was 'going to get me'
Attorneys Robbins and Neslund were seeking a settlement with the city on behalf of McDonald's family when they requested witnesses' statements to police. They personally interviewed three witnesses. They found that the accounts police provided did not match what witnesses told the lawyers.
These were the accounts the lawyers say witnesses gave to them:
A motorist and his son who witnessed the shooting said a uniformed officer told the man "to get out of there immediately, to drive off or be arrested," Robbins told CNN.
"This is somebody who is an occurrence witness to a fatal shooting," Robbins said. "Nobody asked him, 'What did you see?' "
Another witness, a truck driver who was at a nearby Burger King, told the attorneys that he and two other witnesses, a woman and her friend who both saw the shooting, were put in police cars, taken to a station and interviewed for hours in separate rooms.
"He kept describing it and he said the police were visibly angry with him and arguing with him about what happened, saying, 'That's not what happened,' " Robbins said. "He'd say, 'Well, that's what I saw.' They said, 'No, you're wrong.' "
At one point, the trucker told police he needed to get back to work for a 6 a.m. shift, according to Robbins. "The police said, 'We don't give a f--- about your truck. Let's go through this again,' " Robbins said.
In their letters to the city, the lawyers describe the account of the woman taken to the same station with the truck driver. They did not interview her but say she spoke to McDonald's family and told them the teen was "trying to run away from (police)," Neslund wrote.
The woman, Neslund alleged, was so appalled when shots rang out that she yelled at Van Dyke: "Stop shooting."
"There's a reason they kept us there 'til 4 a.m.," the woman told McDonald's family, according to Neslund. "One officer said he was going to get me."
When the witnesses refused to change their statements, Robbins wrote, "the investigating officers simply fabricated civilian accounts in the reports."
The woman, her friend and the truck driver were released after about six hours of questioning when one of them asked for an attorney, Robbins said.
The threats and intimidation of the female witness, Neslund alleged, continued in the days after she first spoke with police.
'We were told there were no witness statements'
In response to the attorneys' requests for witness statements, the city allowed them to examine summaries of witness accounts. Those summaries said five people in the vicinity of the shooting were interviewed by police, but none of them saw the shooting. Two said they "did not see or hear anything," according to the official police records. Another witness summary said a third person heard gunshots and then saw McDonald was "lying in the street." The two others said they saw McDonald being chased by police, but did not see the shooting, according to the official police version.
The names of people interviewed by police are redacted in the publicly released documents. One of the redacted names is listed as a "self-employed truck driver."
Neslund and Robbins confirmed that the trucker they interviewed is the person in those redacted documents. When the attorneys first approached him and told him the police records say he didn't see the shooting, he told them that was not true.
"The truck driver says he did tell police, that it was like an execution," Robbins said. "What he described was what we saw in the video."
CNN asked the attorneys to put the network in touch with the witnesses for interviews. They declined.
The Police Department's witness summaries were submitted into the record on March 15, 2015, nine days after the attorneys sought information and nearly five months after the shooting. The document was signed off and approved by a Chicago police lieutenant.
"We saw these (summaries) by the three witnesses who were interviewed at the station -- that police say they didn't see anything. We said, 'Where's the witness statements?' We were told there were no witness statements," Robbins said.
""Significantly in our view," Robbins said, "of these three witnesses -- the truck driver, the woman and her companion -- none of them were asked to sign a statement."
A federal grand jury has been investigating the shooting for months, including looking into possible obstruction of justice charges by police officers. Neslund and Robbins, who both were once Cook County prosecutors, said it is their understanding the truck driver has testified before the grand jury.
The U.S. Attorney's Office for the Northern District of Illinois declined to comment about specifics related to the grand jury. The office would say only that a joint federal and state investigation into the shooting continues and that authorities are "conducting a thorough investigation into the circumstances of the shooting."
"We won't be saying anything in addition to that," said Joseph Fitzpatrick, an assistant U.S. attorney.
Other officers still working
As of now, no other officer connected to the McDonald case has faced any charges, and they remain on their beats.
The Chicago Police Department has said it is awaiting the conclusion of the Justice Department inquiry and other investigations, but will take swift action if "any officer participated in any wrongdoing."
Corporation counsel of the city of Chicago Stephen Patton and his deputy, Thomas Platt, have yet to respond to a CNN request about whether they took any steps to investigate the allegations raised by the estate attorneys.
Neslund and Robbins first met with Patton and Platt in March on the settlement negotiations.
The estate originally sought $16 million, $1 million for every bullet that struck McDonald. A settlement of $5 million was reached in April.
In a demand letter dated March 6 and written after he'd seen the dashcam video, Neslund said:
"This case will undoubtedly bring a microscope of national attention to the shooting itself as well as the city's pattern, practice and procedures in rubber-stamping fatal police shootings of African-Americans as 'justified.' "
"I submit this particular shooting can be fairly characterized as a gratuitous execution ... as well as a hate crime."
The case stayed largely out of the spotlight until a judge in November ordered the video be made public. Just as Neslund had predicted, it shocked the city and nation.
Here is a response from the CPD, to those amazing "eyewitness" accounts in the article
"excuse me ma'am, my name is Officer Smith. Can you tell me what you saw this evening?"
YEAH....I saw dis dude...and he was walking all crip like, like he was doin that Hotline Bling dance, nowhamsayin?.....den dat Cop just straight up kilt him. Just put like 100 shots in em"
"Thank you ma'am...you have a nice day"
Aint you gonna have me sign somethin?
<drives off in cop car>
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Originally Posted by DRK Star
First, you have stated in this thread several times that we should believe you, because of some sort of insider information that you have, which I'm sure if it even exists was provided by someone in law enforcement. I should believe you over eye witness accounts?
Second, I agree that the witness statements could be biased, but you see no issue with the fact that clearly they have a different statement than what the cops reported. They held them for six hours. Their statement is that they saw something, but police falsified the documents and stated they saw nothing. You have no issue with this?
So they have no witnesses backing up their account and the three independent witnesses they had did not agree with their statement of the situation. Instead of writing up their statement they tried to force them into their narrative, which they refused. You better believe if they could have gotten the witnesses to agree to what they were saying then they would have written it up and had them sign it. They choose to falsify the information by stating all of the witnesses saw nothing.
I'm not shocked I had to spell that out for you, because you were unable to digest what was written in the article, because you are clearly an idiot.
FYP:
DRK is clearly a mong or gay, because I've never once witnessed a person who keeps coming back again and again for an anal raping? So you are either a mong or you're gay, which one?Quote:
"excuse me truck driver, my name is Officer Smith. Can you tell me what you saw this evening?"
"it was like an execution"
"That's not what happened."
<police were visibly angry with him and arguing with him about what happened>
"Well, that's what I saw."
"No, you're wrong."
"I need to get back to work for a 6 a.m. shift"
"We don't give a f--- about your truck. Let's go through this again."
"Let me speak to my attorney."
"You're free to go."
<falsifying public records, say he didn't see anything>
DESTROYED
They held them for six hours
They are more than welcome to show up in court to testify that the police held them for 6 hours.....in the station, where there are cameras and microphones that would verify their statements.
Keep in mind, that at most scenes, when the police ask for witnesses, if the people dont have much to add, they wont have them sign anything. Someone that says THEY EXECUTED HIM!, isnt much of a witness. The people inside the burger king may have seen him for a minute or two, but probably wouldnt have seen anything down the street when he ran around the building and out into the street.
To answer your question, they were in a very black area, where people dont like the police and even the manager of the BK lied to say the cops were deleting files.
If people have proof of anything, they are more than welcome to provide any evidence and bring it up in court and swear under oath that its true.
There is too much to go through from that long article, but if those people are claiming things happened to them at the station, its all kept on video and audio, so let it come out later.
If they claimed things were said at the scene, well, thats going to be tough for either party to prove. If the cops did something wrong, they can be punished. Im rambling. You get the point. Wait for tapes and evidence. If there isnt any proof, this story fades away.
OOOH. Fright. Im "destroyed". <yawn>
we'll see. wait for them to go to court.
$20 wager still waiting for you to back up your talk....
http://rs556.pbsrc.com/albums/ss3/mu...dance.gif~c200
By your own moronic logic, Ive never seen a guy avoid backing up his big mouth so often, so you are either a special needs child, or chicken shit.
which one is it?
escrow with Druff.....unless....well....bawk bawk!
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DRK Star, Muck Ficon
Easy $20 for ya, Muck...let me know.
and Fright, this is a key phrase for you, I forgot to post about earlier: " the attorneys for the teen's estate say."
You are reading information that the attorney for LaQuan alledges happened. Nothing that is in that report is confirmed to be true, yet. The attorney, AFTER THE FACT, claims that all these things happened (helps to have these issues for when you want to sue the city for $).
Seriously, are you fucking retarded?Quote:
Originally Posted by DRK Star
Do you think the cops told them when they should show up in court to tell their side of the story?
Or were they just magically supposed to know like you have your magical insider resources?
Also, you fucking idiot, you assume that they knew there statements weren't going to be recorded for record.
I want you right here right now you pussy ass cop dicking sucking bitch to tell me right now that the officers were right in saying that the witnesses saw nothing when clearly the officers were told they saw something.
TELL ME RIGHT NOW THAT IT IS OK FOR AN OFFICER TO FABRICATE A STORY YOU COCK SUCKING FAGGOT IDIOT.
YOU ARE WITHOUT A DOUBT THE BIGGEST IDIOT ON THIS FORUM. I LOVE THE WAY YOU CONTINUE TO SUCK MY DICK BITCH.
Drk thinks this is a proper line that a "good" cop would take because his job has gotten harder.Quote:
Originally Posted by DRK Star
How can you have a rational discussion with someone who thinks this is acceptable?
Also how many times were you going to leave this thread and nap it out until the "facts" come out in the trial?
Fright......you are missing my point
there is NO PROOF anyone was held 6 hours.
You are reading something where the info was from AN ATTORNEY, REPRESENTING LAQUAN/LAQUANS FAMILY. He can state whatever he wants. He can claim that people went to a black op site and were held for 2 weeks. My gut tells me you wont hear much about any of this in a few months.
If anything TRULY HAPPENED, let them fight it out in court or sue the city. There is a very strong possibility that hardly any of this took place. Thats all. Pretty simple.
If anything DID take place, sue the hell out of the police, and get everyone fired.
Hopefully you understand now.
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Originally Posted by RealTalkDrk thinks this is a proper line that a "good" cop would take because his job has gotten harder.Quote:
Originally Posted by DRK Star
How can you have a rational discussion with someone who thinks this is acceptable?
Also how many times were you going to leave this thread and nap it out until the "facts" come out in the trial?
Um, at what point did DRK think ANYTHING about (pay attention here) the statement that someone else made, that I copied and pasted?
How do you know what I THINK?
Do you even know what the officer in this case is referring to?
Oh, and, believe it or not, Im free to post whatever the fuck I want in this thread, and you are entitled to post in it, or pick your ass somewhere else. I was actually perfectly happy not posting info here anymore, but I have a pretty good source for all kinds of info that hardly anyone gets access to, so I thought that:
1. People would be interested in hearing that info
2. I could entertain some folks, interested in some good stories
3. Educate the very uneducated masses on things they have clearly demonstrated they know nothing about, yet want to talk shit about it
If necessary, I could ask Druff to NOT MAKE YOU read the thread anymore, since apparently, you're being forced to. Sorry for the inconvenience.
For example: Here is something I learned today that I never knew, and it will address some of the comments some of you have made.
at the moment the police have deemed that deadly force is necessary, they are supposed to aim and shoot at center mass. They are not supposed to shoot at legs or arms. If they are trained to shoot at arms/legs, and they accidentally hit the heart, they could get in trouble, because that would likely be Murder. "MY BABY WAS GETTIN HIS LIFE TOGETHER <cap and gown photo inserted here> AND HE ONLY HAD A BAT IN HIS HANDS!! YOU SHOULD HAVE SHOT HIM IN THE LEG, BUT YOU MISSED AN NOW HE DEAD!! WHERES JESSE AND AN ATTORNEY!??!
Intentional grey area of the law, but if you would like to have that changed, you can always try to find a way to do do.
this also includes the way they are trained to shoot until the person is no longer considered "A THREAT". If you can find a way to legally show that "X" amount of bullets will render a person to no longer be considered a threat, please submit that change for their consideration.
those of you that are giving those statements some solid thought, will realize its pretty much impossible. You can then understand why they are written the way they are, and how that allows to police to perform their jobs and legally protect their own (and others) lives.
Bonus info for Fr1ght: The police at the LaQuan scene dont interview people. The detectives do. They have to show up on the scene after the fact and conduct interviews, so if they want to blame the cops for doing anything, they really didnt. They might drive them somewhere and maybe say something short at the scene. If they speak with anyone, they get statements MOST (not all) of the time. Some statements are pretty worthless, so they may take their info, and that gets put into a database later. If you are an attorney, hoping to get paid, especially in this case, Its pretty easy to understand how he would exaggerate several things because, frankly, its going to be damn near impossible either way, so you may as well make up some ridiculous shit that will get the cop-haters all outraged. The angrier people are over this, the more the family stands to get paid by the city to go away. You WANT to go the The Guardian, Cop Block, Tin-Foil-Hat Weekly, CNN, Tribune, suntimes and get this story out, whether its legit or not.
Yes I'm sure you just copy/pasted 10 paragraphs from the blog because you don't have an opinion on it. makes sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by DRK StarQuote:
Originally Posted by RealTalk
Um, at what point did DRK think ANYTHING about (pay attention here) the statement that someone else made, that I copied and pasted?
How do you know what I THINK?
Do you even know what the officer in this case is referring to?
Oh, and, believe it or not, Im free to post whatever the fuck I want in this thread, and you are entitled to post in it, or pick your ass somewhere else. I was actually perfectly happy not posting info here anymore, but I have a pretty good source for all kinds of info that hardly anyone gets access to, so I thought that:
1. People would be interested in hearing that info
2. I could entertain some folks, interested in some good stories
3. Educate the very uneducated masses on things they have clearly demonstrated they know nothing about, yet want to talk shit about it
If necessary, I could ask Druff to NOT MAKE YOU read the thread anymore, since apparently, you're being forced to. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Lol you are such a sensitive pussy. Where did I say you aren't entitled to post what you want, where you want? I just find it entertaining how many times you have tilted and vowed never to return to this thread only to show up 6 hours later copy/pasting war and peace excerpts from random cop blogs, pleading with people to watch 45 min(LOL) YouTube videos and begging for $20 bets to be escrowed to druff.
For the record I actually like your posts most of the time(juggalos, phish, random things thread, sports betting, etc), but when you post about police and skatz you are literally the nut worst imo.
By all means carry on though.
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Originally Posted by RealTalk
"Yes I'm sure you just copy/pasted 10 paragraphs from the blog because you don't have an opinion on it. makes sense."
It was to give the readers here a sense of what officers are feeling like here in Chicago. Did you SEE me type my opinion? My opinion is irrelvant to that post. Do you know how many places I get my sources from? Hint: Its more than 6. Less than 10. The 1 specific cop blog though, is one of the biggest in the US, and there is excellent info there.
Sensitive Pussy? If you want to engage with me, with good questions, I welcome it. If you want to be a smart-assed prick, who talks out of his ass, I will help you plant your head further up it for you. Your choice. Again I have addressed why I post what I do, AND WHY I TYPE IN CAPS. Its to emphasize certain things. If you feel Im tilting, what is it you are requiring of me so that I can indicate to you that Im some shmuck just typing along at my keyboard, pretty calm, maybe enjoying a beverage and acting pretty chill? Had my kids with me earlier and was playing chess during posts. But whatever...assume Im Tilting and kicking the neighbor's dog for all I care.
$20 wagers are because I enjoy watching people talk shit, but not back it up. Jimmy G called me out, and I said not until I get more info...I got more info, and he ran his cowardly ass back to Beantown. Corrigan as well. He is avoiding the bet. He's about a chromosome away from being the missing link, so Im not shocked.
I wanted/begged people to watch because there are plenty of lazy fucks who would click that, see its 45 min, and say GTFO, which some did. However, the people that watched the entire video, Im guessing gained an entirely new perspective on laws and things that they were previously unaware of. It may help to calm the storm down a bit, of all the people railing on cops, who dont have a PR team (was fired, no one replaced their PR guy...seriously).
In terms of Skatz, Im very glad you noticed my work. I was intentionally trying to turn it into a toilet with shit posts and horrible tags. That was the point. I dont post there, Im not on any IM, nor do I read it, so why would I give a fuck? Its an abortion over there.
The witnesses said six hours idiot, you know nothing. Everything past your first sentence is irrelevant, because it is pure speculation with no news source. Don't act surprised when the PD magically can't turn up those tapes of the witnesses.Quote:
Originally Posted by DRK Star
You dipshit, you keep accusing me of being wrong for believing the victim attorney's record.
You believe in the cops record.
What a fucking a idiot.
You pretend that they don't have just as much or more to gain from lying than the victim's attorney does.
This is by far your best post in the entire thread, and frankly I'm disappointed you didn't take pics and post in the super moist thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by DRK Star
A whole $20 damn! I'd up that bet up to $200 for sure if I didn't already know that everybody in the state is going to be working against me.Quote:
Originally Posted by DRK Star
I just sent the $20 escrow to Druff.
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Originally Posted by FR1GHT
the cops record? what are you talking about.
I believe in FACTS and LAWS. I get info from the reports, and from actual officers who know the people that were there. I get explanations as to WHY people do things. I give you a massive amount of info, and then some guy comes out with a video that breaks everything down, pretty much EXACTLY like I told you.
You get your information from websites and newspapers that want you to click on their ads.
Lets take your argument. Cops lying vs Defense Attorneys and others lying.
What exactly would save the cops in the LaQuan video by them lying? You have dashboard cameras that just showed you the most important info that you need to see. The only thing that would have been better is if they had the guy who caught him breaking into trucks recording him, or the cop recording him attacking him and slashing a tire.
What do they need to lie about? HEY WITNESS!!! YOU SAW NOTHING!!!!! who the fuck cares? it wouldnt make an ounce of difference. Its on video. You have the reports to go through, you have the coroner report.
The lying coming from the other people is only important for the sake of seeing what people will do to get you to:
Click on their websites
Read their shitting magazines/papers
Make it look like the cops are evil so you can sue the city, because its OPEN SEASON on Taxpayer money.
there really isnt any reason for a cop to lie about anything at that scene. You saw what happened. Even audio wouldnt make much of a difference. The cop could have been screaming n-word this (may have at the end) or fuck that. (as long as he wasnt saying Im going to go shoot me a black guy tonight, no matter what).
You can think of whatever conspiracy theory you want, but there is nothing to look for.
People post their dumb links to the black ops site....my brother would joke with me about that. Hes like, dont you think that cops, who are notorious for talking about stuff, especially with some booze in them, would have spilled the beans on ANYTHING that was shady about that place by now? Its a non issue. BUT, Im sure you clicked their shitty article a few times, didnt you?
When this is ALL OVER, and if this guy goes free (which he legally should), wait to see which papers retract all their bullshit. (zero..point...zero).
If you want my side of something, Im giving it to you.
BUT....again....wait for the trial. Take anything I say with a grain of salt. Im giving you my opinion based on knowledge, facts and laws. Im not some dumb hick like corrigan going, "he murdered him!....He should have shot him in the leg!, because that is what ignorant, uninformed dolts do. He thinks he is smart, but he and some of the others, have shown how little they actually know. They have nothing else to say except insults.
In the LaQuan video, all you needed to know, essentially, was that:
He had just committed a felony(s) (not on video, but the reports are out there)
He was armed with a dangerous weapon (on video)
He was resisting arrest (reports came out, but no audio on video)
He was fleeing the scene (on video)
He was a danger to people (on video)
at that point, he could be shot by officers, using their right to deadly force (you would need to know the law)
when he drops the knife, he is no longer a threat (on video, but you need to know the law)
THATS IT
thats really the important info. Ignore 99% of everything else you see or hear.
going to sleep
You can believe in laws, but you can't believe in facts. There hasn't been to trial to determine the "facts".Quote:
Originally Posted by DRK StarQuote:
Originally Posted by FR1GHT
the cops record? what are you talking about.
I believe in FACTS and LAWS. I get info from the reports, and from actual officers who know the people that were there. I get explanations as to WHY people do things. I give you a massive amount of info, and then some guy comes out with a video that breaks everything down, pretty much EXACTLY like I told you.
You get your information from websites and newspapers that want you to click on their ads.
Lets take your argument. Cops lying vs Defense Attorneys and others lying.
What exactly would save the cops in the LaQuan video by them lying? You have dashboard cameras that just showed you the most important info that you need to see. The only thing that would have been better is if they had the guy who caught him breaking into trucks recording him, or the cop recording him attacking him and slashing a tire.
What do they need to lie about? HEY WITNESS!!! YOU SAW NOTHING!!!!! who the fuck cares? it wouldnt make an ounce of difference. Its on video. You have the reports to go through, you have the coroner report.
The lying coming from the other people is only important for the sake of seeing what people will do to get you to:
Click on their websites
Read their shitting magazines/papers
Make it look like the cops are evil so you can sue the city, because its OPEN SEASON on Taxpayer money.
there really isnt any reason for a cop to lie about anything at that scene. You saw what happened. Even audio wouldnt make much of a difference. The cop could have been screaming n-word this (may have at the end) or fuck that. (as long as he wasnt saying Im going to go shoot me a black guy tonight, no matter what).
You can think of whatever conspiracy theory you want, but there is nothing to look for.
People post their dumb links to the black ops site....my brother would joke with me about that. Hes like, dont you think that cops, who are notorious for talking about stuff, especially with some booze in them, would have spilled the beans on ANYTHING that was shady about that place by now? Its a non issue. BUT, Im sure you clicked their shitty article a few times, didnt you?
When this is ALL OVER, and if this guy goes free (which he legally should), wait to see which papers retract all their bullshit. (zero..point...zero).
If you want my side of something, Im giving it to you.
BUT....again....wait for the trial. Take anything I say with a grain of salt. Im giving you my opinion based on knowledge, facts and laws. Im not some dumb hick like corrigan going, "he murdered him!....He should have shot him in the leg!, because that is what ignorant, uninformed dolts do. He thinks he is smart, but he and some of the others, have shown how little they actually know. They have nothing else to say except insults.
The fact, that you believe in "facts", but completely dismiss eye witness reports is disturbing...
So where exactly are you getting your "facts"?
Jesus Christ, it's like pulling teeth with you. I've stepped down to elementary level.
Why didn't they use pepper spray? I've never seen anyone shrug off a good spraying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YmTdMW9uSQ
Seems like it'd be too risky, I'm just curious how it would of turned out had he been sprayed.
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Originally Posted by FR1GHTYou can believe in laws, but you can't believe in facts. There hasn't been to trial to determine the "facts".Quote:
Originally Posted by DRK Star
The fact, that you believe in "facts", but completely dismiss eye witness reports is disturbing...
So where exactly are you getting your "facts"?
Jesus Christ, it's like pulling teeth with you. I've stepped down to elementary level.
OK, I think I understand what you are asking then.
Give me an example of something I said where you question if its a FACT
im trying to sleep though, so please do it quick.
and I never COMPLETELY dismissed the "eye witness" reporting.
I just think there is about a 95% chance its bullshit. I said, let them go to their attorney, and testify under oath, that they were held in a cell for 6 hours while they were getting threatened by cops, for being witnesses to something that was on film, and their testimony would mean complete DICK to the actual case. What could they have possibly seen, that wasnt on the tape, that would make an ounce of difference? Are the witnesses going to claim they saw something that took place that was completely different from the video? Well, THAT would be completely fucking bizarre and highly highly highly unlikely. Its on a fucking tape.
They could make some shit up about what "cops said" to them, because in the end, its he says/she says bullshit and its irelevant on top of that.
If you think about it, its actually absurd. The attorney just wants to likely get some shit out there that makes the public question the police and cause more chances of him getting a payoff. They got 5mil. Congrats.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcNTxZv8rhU
nm it probably wouldn't have worked
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RealTalk: Lol you've gone full retard
I take the time to address the question, and the only thing you can say, as opposed to having a differing viewpoint or any disagreement with my comments, is THAT....
well done
FPS
the reason they likely didnt use mace is because you normally use mace when the person doesnt have a weapon.
Not only did he HAVE a deadly weapon, he also MAY have had a gun in his jeans (they werent sure), and he was also acting so crazy (likely due to the PCP) and had shown so much aggression and strength in the parking lot (stabing at a cop in his car and slashing a tire) that they would be risking their own lives trying to get close enough to him to effectively administer the mace (or a taser for that matter). You would be well within a range for him to run at you and slash you if the mace didnt work (it probably wouldnt have done much), and the tasers dont always fire, nor do they always kick out a strong voltage (50000 but sometimes 1500 wats).
a taser or mace would have not been a good, safe call here, when you are completely justified to use the gun and not risk your own life.
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Originally Posted by DRK Star
i didnt want to keep you up since you were in a hurry to go to bed...Quote:
Originally Posted by RealTalk
but my stance the entire time has been that i was going to follow the advice you originally said you were going to and not fucking comment or debate what is fact and what is opinion until this goes to trial and the facts actually get established in a court of law.
GL in your bets i'll be the first to congratulate you if things play out the way you say.
sweet dreams
Rollo's leaving this site did leave a vacuum for stupid.
We always need someone to step in to go full retard - DRK is that hero we need.
Chicago is next....
http://hotair.com/archives/2016/01/0...murder-record/
Congrats to Baltimore on breaking their all time murder record
POSTED AT 8:41 PM ON JANUARY 4, 2016 BY JAZZ SHAW
It’s been a banner year in Charm City… provided you happen to own a funeral home. Just as we are being assured that crime is coming under control (which it is in many areas outside of the inner cities) the citizens of Baltimore report that they’ve broken the all time per capita murder record for a single year. And the telling part of the statistic is that they managed the feat almost entirely after the Freddie Gray riots. (Baltimore Sun)
Blood was shed in Baltimore at an unprecedented pace in 2015, with mostly young, black men shot to death in a near-daily crush of violence.
On a per-capita basis, the year was the deadliest ever in the city. The year’s tally of 344 homicides was second only to the record 353 in 1993, when Baltimore had about 100,000 more residents.
The killings were on pace with recent years in the early months of 2015 but skyrocketed after the unrest and rioting of late April. In five of the next eight months, killings topped 30 or 40 a month.
There is some literal gallows humor in the fact that the Baltimore Sun reports that the record murder rate has led to “renewing calls for new gun laws.” (Roughly 90% of the killings were done with firearms, which won’t come as much of a shock.) I’m not sure if any of the residents have been following the election news for the past couple of months, but their former mayor and governor has been running a campaign based largely on his success in passing some of the most restrictive gun laws in the nation in their fair city. Also of note is that fact that this dubious honor was only the per capita record because Baltimore has been bleeding citizens for two decades and the population has plunged in the six figure range. It’s simply not a safe place for law abiding citizens to live.
Perhaps someone could ask Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake what she thinks of the current state of gun laws. Or possibly the better question would be to ask her latest Chief of Police how many of the guns they’ve managed to confiscate from the killers they’ve brought to justice were purchased legally. I can tell you that the FBI already has a pretty good idea and on a good day it might be between six and eight percent of them. The rest were stolen or purchased on the black market by people who don’t go through background checks or stand on line at a sporting goods store to make sure that they’re law abiding citizens.
Meanwhile, Baltimore’s cops have continued to adopt an unofficial “stand back and let it all be” attitude in some sketchy situations, at least until they see what happens to their fellow officers currently facing a series of trials down at the courthouse. Yes, yes… I know. You’re going to remind me that the Ferguson Effect isn’t real and it’s all in my evil little mind, right? Tell that to Baltimore. City Hall has taken a get tough approach to law enforcement, but they decided to target the cops instead of the gangs. The results are on display with this sad milestone.
8 days.....on pace to crush last year
January to Date
Shot & Killed: 19
Shot & Wounded: 92
Total Shot: 111
Total Homicides: 19
Also, when police initiate contact with someone, they write up a "Contact Card". It shows that they are being proactive and getting out and speaking with people, and getting info for potential arrests and looking for things that are suspect.
this year compared to last, for a one month period, they were at 11,000 last year....they're at 2000 this year.
From the blog:
"25th year on the job and never imagined how hated the police have become. All my brothers and sisters on the job are absolutely disgusted by the Mayor, media, and most politicians. This great city has turned to shit thanks to the ghetto rats who shoot and kill each other and yet not one politician has speaks up about this? GOD bless the Chicago Police and unfortunately I must agree with the consensus to remain fetal and watch each others back. Protect your brothers and sisters on the job and of course your loved ones. The rest of the citizens will suffer of course but unfortunately this is what you wished for."
ROFL OH BOO HOO, WE'RE HATED.
Have his "brothers and sisters" stop being such dicks to minorities and maybe they won't be as hated...Quote:
Originally Posted by DRK Star
Granted all positions of authority are going to be hated to some degree, but the % of asshole cops is just not ok anymore. They can't get away with what they used to thanks to technology, it seems that's what they are really pissed about.
:thisQuote:
Originally Posted by El GalloHave his "brothers and sisters" stop being such dicks to minorities and maybe they won't be as hated...Quote:
Originally Posted by DRK Star
Granted all positions of authority are going to be hated to some degree, but the % of asshole cops is just not ok anymore. They can't get away with what they used to thanks to technology, it seems that's what they are really pissed about.