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The right wing hate media and social media conspiracy theorist retardosphere is way ahead of you.Quote:
Originally Posted by adamantium
He's worked for 6 presidents, 3 Democrats and 3 Republicans. Dedicated his life to public health and serving his country. Obviously it's all a plot to undermine Trump.
I think he needs all 12 of the steps.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
Havent you heard? he shut down flights from China, you think Obama would have done something like that?Quote:
Originally Posted by blake
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Originally Posted by sonatine
sounds like a guy on the ropes throwing haymakers into the air, only limitless drinks at home with no prospect of going to the bar. and im witnessing massive TDS, like I said, im just gonna think it's all planned if ppls first instinct when they read headlines is "trump has blood on his hands"
560 people died in NY in one day. The 100k - 240k projection seems wildly optimistic.
look at how on tilt walter is, unable to control his TDS. why are u red repping my video of dr fauci saying USA has nothing to worry about?
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Originally Posted by thesidedishQuote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
sounds like a guy on the ropes throwing haymakers into the air, only limitless drinks at home with no prospect of going to the bar. and im witnessing massive TDS, like I said, im just gonna think it's all planned if ppls first instinct when they read headlines is "trump has blood on his hands"
https://i.imgur.com/nKbu57O.jpg
2020 until november fkn better not be ppl sitting at home arguing "did trump handle coronavirus good enough" count me in for about an hr and a half a week
What is there to discuss?
We had our first case same day as So Korea.
So Korea hasn't even hit 200 deaths and
Trump is trying to tell us if we stay under 240k he did a good job????
GTFO.
Not sure what SK has that we don't,
but I know what we have that they don't; Fox "news" and Sean Hannity.
Don't worry though, Jared is in charge.
The second Trump leaves office, there will be a nepotism law put in place.
Like the best person in America to handle this is a slum lord from Brooklyn?
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Originally Posted by JimmyG_415
mask culture obv
That's exactly correct. And Trump and Cuomo have sat on their hands and waffled on this issue for far too long. Time to make masks mandatory, now.Quote:
Originally Posted by thesidedishQuote:
Originally Posted by JimmyG_415
mask culture obv
Want to stay indoors? Fine. Want to go to the store, or take public transit? Put a mask on.
Think about this one for a minute. The US is using our military to go around the world and pick up PPE and all manner of supplies.
Then they are giving it to private companies to auction off to the states. Even then, the Feds use MORE taxpayer money to outbid the states for some of the goods.
Because the government isn't willing to disrupt the "normal" supply chain.
Because if somebody isn't making a lot of money off the whole thing, it isn't worth doing.
tl;dr: taxpayers are paying for our military to acquire for, and give to, private companies the things people need to stay alive, and the private companies get to make as much money as possible off the deal.
But I'm sure any Democrat would do that same, Trump is now taking this seriously and doing a good job and is obv a complex man, etc.
I’m thrilled I got my Stimulus check in time for the mortgage payment
well, governor wolf just recommended all pennsylvanians wear cloth masks in public.
i might choose death rather than look like an asshole though
LOL Redtube and Pornhub subscriptions. Is Mrs. Daly aware of this?Quote:
Originally Posted by DalyI’m thrilled I got my Stimulus check in time for the mortgage payment
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Originally Posted by blake
If his name was governor bat you’d listen right to him and put your mask on
Blatant anti-canidism
I can’t remember wolves causing us these type of problems
Not saying they should do this. As I understand it, they are assisting companies who routinely provide these products in getting their supplies from their typical manufacturers and then flying it to the US. So company A who sells medical supplies to the acute care market procures white labeled supplies from a manufacturer in China. Instead of sending the stuff via boat or airfreight using Air China or DHL the government is assisting in the transportation. The rest of the supply chain is still intact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crowe Diddly
That's exactly what I assumed was going on.Quote:
Originally Posted by gauchojakeNot saying they should do this. As I understand it, they are assisting companies who routinely provide these products in getting their supplies from their typical manufacturers and then flying it to the US. So company A who sells medical supplies to the acute care market procures white labeled supplies from a manufacturer in China. Instead of sending the stuff via boat or airfreight using Air China or DHL the government is assisting in the transportation. The rest of the supply chain is still intact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crowe Diddly
Easier to scream "OMG capitalism in a time of crisis!" though.
Still waiting to hear from Dems on this forum why, if their own party is so dedicated to saving lives, they were delaying the aid bill by stuffing in pet project lines such as "airplanes must reduce emissions by 2025".
Notice I routinely admit that Trump made mistakes in this whole thing, yet I see zero liberals/leftists here criticizing anyone from their side.
Anyone care to take a crack at whose fault it was that NY public transportation run for so long? Hint: It's not Trump's.
How is it capitalism when your military is acting as DHL? And then DHL is bidding against the states? You think the company using military planes might favor the fed? How about just straight up purchase what you can, pick it up, and disburse it by need? Doesn’t that make far more sense?
i reaaaally can't wait to walk into my bank wearing a hat, shades and a bandana covering my face next week
Are your banks open? We have just drive thrus and atms.Quote:
Originally Posted by blake
It’s not like they are taking every single shipment of supplies. They are moving supplies critical to the containment of the virus. Also they are doing this for multiple companies so the companies still need to compete for the business.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCR
Honestly you would be surprised at the lack of coordination on any level between the government agencies and the states procurement processes. Couple that with the companies that sell the stuff being in compete chaos and nobody really knows what is going on. Also the FBI is already actively investigating many of these companies for price gouging. So there’s that.
I would venture to say that most of these supplies are still being delivered in the traditional way. A very small percent is being brought in by the government. It looks shady af I agree, but there’s a little more to it. The military didn’t just take over medical supply distribution for free. I wish!
So I was on PFA in the middle of the night and I started feeling cold. I looked at the temperature in the house and it was around 70. I usually like it a bit warmer than 70, but 70 is fine. I shouldn't have felt this cold sitting in 70 degrees.
Then I went out to walk my ancient dog, and I came back in feeling really cold. Granted, it was 47 degrees outside, but I was wearing a jacket and again, I never come back in from that feeling cold unless it's close to freezing outside.
I had a feeling something was wrong. What scared me the most was the fact that, in my own experience, chills usually indicate that I have a fever and it's rising.
:what
I went to get a thermometer. I've never dreaded seeing an elevated temperature like this. While I almost never get fevers anymore, when I do, it's more of a novelty. "Oh look, my temperature is over 100!", I would think. This time I was terrified of seeing that.
So I took my temperature, and indeed the results were abnormal.
But not in the way you're suspecting.
My temperature was 95.8.
:wtf2
I took it again. This time 96.2.
Took it again. 95.9.
Took it again 96.3.
Somehow my body temperature fell to 96 degrees. I quickly googled coronavirus and low temperature and nothing came up. Apparently the only temperature variation you get is a fever, not an anti-fever.
Weird.
copied the first two dozen comments on youtube regarding Trump refusing to wear a mask....
bino mejia
10 minutes ago
😂😂your president is hilarious ...i vote for him..
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CAJUN Patriot
CAJUN Patriot
20 minutes ago
You didn’t give time for the Surgeon general to speaker hear the whole story!!! You going to become a CNN NOW?
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Pyro
Pyro
15 minutes ago
He should wear a Punisher mask. Would look badass.
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Alien Menace
Alien Menace
21 minutes ago
He doesnt believe there bs
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Danielle Everhart
Danielle Everhart
23 minutes ago
God bless everyone and your families!
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Jason Drake
Jason Drake
8 minutes ago
“I have to look representable” easy answer.
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Carolyn Sullivan
Carolyn Sullivan
16 minutes ago
I’m with him not doing it no need .... I feel all should do what you feel is best for you . I’m at home 90% of the time and if I go out I try to keep my distance from others.
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CHERYL G
CHERYL G
23 minutes ago
I don’t blame him. I can’t stand anything covering my mouth & nose like that.
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Joe Reyes
Joe Reyes
12 minutes ago
Yeah. Don’t wear one. Drop by the hospital n see how tough u are lol. Do it
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Pork money
Pork money
18 minutes ago
...put a muzzle- uh I mean mask on all the propaganda hacks parading as journalist
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Garey Stevenson
Garey Stevenson
22 minutes ago
I believe he is correct. I am not going to wear a mask at home.
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glen mann
glen mann
23 minutes ago
GOOD JOB PREZ! He should NOT wear a mask for this deep state flu.... 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
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Deepest Blue
Deepest Blue
14 minutes ago
okay Russia
Adrian Messenger
Adrian Messenger
3 minutes ago
@Deepest Blue
Ok, China!
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KEMA GROVES
KEMA GROVES
23 seconds ago
Nope 🙅 there is no need to wear a mask because you are not willing to visit nurses or doctors in New York or other Emergency Hospital Rooms to see how Real this Pandemic is. Sitting in that Oval office isolates you from the Reality of seeing how people are fighting this war on a face to face encounter against the virus.
Deep Drop
Deep Drop
9 seconds ago
trump is a filthy scumbag piece of trash terrorist and his supporters are America’s garbage
Aunt Cynthia
Aunt Cynthia
23 minutes ago
Mask won’t help that much your better off doing social distance and gloves paper mask isn’t much help the cotton ones work
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Deborah S. Nelson
Deborah S. Nelson
3 minutes ago
Me too I won’t wear one. It’s a constant reminder of being in fear instead of faith.
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Mike the evolution DESTROYER
Mike the evolution DESTROYER
5 minutes ago (edited)
I'm not wearing a mask either it's not gonna stop pathogens/bacterias/viruses your Immune System will 😊😊
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Steven Winterhill
Steven Winterhill
5 minutes ago
It makes him look weak....I'm sure he's thinking that...I wouldn't wear one either...
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Crystalline Kristine
Crystalline Kristine
6 minutes ago
He should shave his head and grow a beard.
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E O
E O
16 minutes ago
He don't need to wear a damn Mac half the people in the freaking world are not and we're in a freaking math get over it reporters
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Leland B
Leland B
10 minutes ago
Why hasn't anyone asked if this was Kim Jung Uns Christmas present that he spoke of. I don't think he likes China anymore than he does the US.
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Aaron Goldman
Aaron Goldman
18 minutes ago
I don’t need one either is that a problem no
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Adrian Messenger
Adrian Messenger
6 minutes ago
Would you, Fox 10 Phoenix employers?
Do you screen every single person that comes in from the public?
No, you don't.
PRESIDENT TRUMP IS EXTREMELY WELL PROTECTED.
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florence flores
florence flores
8 minutes ago
Trump KNOWS in his gut what's up. He's a man of Faith...
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Ben Dover
Ben Dover
10 minutes ago
Give Canada their masks back you unprepared dope
What would we do if we were at war? A real war. How would we go about it? I don’t know the answer I mean we lost a little over 400,000 in WW2 over 4 years. We are going to lose half that in four months. Seems more decisive measures are warranted than business as usual.
I don’t want them to steal all of them for America, but we have as many cases today as countries 2-9 combined.
Do people still go to banks? I honestly can’t remember the last time I was in one.Quote:
Originally Posted by blake
Not sure what you mean by this.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCR
400,000 is a little more than 0.1% of the population. The majority of that 400,000 wasn't going to live that much longer anyway.
I'm not saying this isn't a big deal. But it's not a population-altering event.
And right now is anything but "business as usual".
Why do we even bother celebrating Veterans Day by that logic? Those 200000 people have more life expectancy in them than the 5 or 6 thousand people who have died in Afghanistan and Iraq over almost 20 years. Possibly more than Vietnam if we skew towards 300k.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffNot sure what you mean by this.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCR
400,000 is a little more than 0.1% of the population. The majority of that 400,000 wasn't going to live that much longer anyway.
I'm not saying this isn't a big deal. But it's not a population-altering event.
And right now is anything but "business as usual".
Looks at that chart of NY deaths, lot of people who would live another 20 years.
Why are we defaulting to being a shipping company? I get that expedites the process, but we are being a shipping company for war profiteers that are turning around and selling masks and PPE to guys from Latin America showing up with suitcases of cash. Look at the Florida health secretary talking about exactly that.
Kudos to Trump here...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kd2ArJSKXyM
If the government is helping companies (free of charge, btw) get these supplies into the US, how can anyone possibly justify auctioning off these supplies to the highest bidders when lives are at stake? Then the federal government literally is outbidding the states that they told to get these items themselves. The supply chain is definitely not in tact. I can;t see how this is anywhere near ok.Quote:
Originally Posted by gauchojake
As for everyone shouting about the aid bill delay, it was an existing bill that was turned into the Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act. It was put on the agenda and allowed to proceed in the senate on 3/20, was approved unanimously by the senate on 3/25, passed by the House on 3/27, and signed by the President on 3/27. If you think a full week is a long time to pass a multi-trillion dollar bill that originally had over a trillion dollars earmarked for businesses with no strings attached and no oversight, well, not much I can do for you. To think the only reason it was "delayed" was because of Democratic pork is silly, and wrong.
So what point are you trying to make here?Quote:
Originally Posted by Crowe DiddlyIf the government is helping companies (free of charge, btw) get these supplies into the US, how can anyone possibly justify auctioning off these supplies to the highest bidders when lives are at stake? Then the federal government literally is outbidding the states that they told to get these items themselves. The supply chain is definitely not in tact. I can;t see how this is anywhere near ok.Quote:
Originally Posted by gauchojake
As for everyone shouting about the aid bill delay, it was an existing bill that was turned into the Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act. It was put on the agenda and allowed to proceed in the senate on 3/20, was approved unanimously by the senate on 3/25, passed by the House on 3/27, and signed by the President on 3/27. If you think a full week is a long time to pass a multi-trillion dollar bill that originally had over a trillion dollars earmarked for businesses with no strings attached and no oversight, well, not much I can do for you.
That the pork and other crap put in the bill by the Democrats was okay, because it only took a week to pass? Or that this stuff was already there because they converted it from an existing bill, and they just didn't have time to remove that stuff?
Either argument is flawed, btw.
Those inexpensive digital thermometers you can get at CVS and places like that are massively shitty. They're almost worse than nothing. I've gotten a full degree difference in temps within minutes on those deals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Half agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crowe DiddlyThose inexpensive digital thermometers you can get at CVS and places like that are massively shitty. They're almost worse than nothing. I've gotten a full degree difference in temps within minutes on those deals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
I used to have both one of those digital thermometers AND an old-school type manual one.
Sadly, last year I broke the manual one (which wasn't mercury, thankfully), and forgot to replace it. Wish I had now.
I found the manual one was more consistent and accurate, and I saw the 1 degree variance on the digital one. However, I never saw the digital one being way off.
For example, I didn't see it where the digital one reported me as having 101 and the manual one reporting 98.6, or vice versa.
Most of these items have tariffs on them so in a sense the companies that import them pre paid for the freight. FYI when the feds were asked for relief on the tariffs they were :denied
I don't know specifics of any auctions going on. I know that we get bids from all sorts of government agencies. None of them are auctions. Typically we get a list of items that we are to bid/price and a potential order quantity. We bid the deal and that's it. There's no competition for higher prices as far as I know. Now the volume of the request might influence the priority of the bid but it's not like the feds or states are sending us a price they are willing to pay.
If your temp drops below 95 then you have a severe infection. I had a patient that had a 94 once. I couldn’t believe it and took it anal and it was the same. Called the squad, he didn’t live. Either a temp too high or too low can mean infection. Usually people with low temps feel hot not cold so not sure wtf was wrong with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
No, my point was that the bill first voted on was essentially a trillion dollar money give-away to corporate america with literally no strings attached, and a lot less money earmarked for hospitals and public health than the final version was. At that point, companies receiving money didn;t even have to retain their employees for any amount of time. I'm not gonna justify anyone adding pork to the bill, but that wasn't why it was not passed the first 2 times in the Senate. It wasn't passed because it didn't allow any oversight of what is done with the money once the bill was passed. Dems added on their pork, but the first version was almost unfettered pork to begin with. None of that was right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Any time a bill is written by 1 party and passed without objection, its almost always a terrible bill. I think we can all agree to that, no? The version voted on @ 3/23 was not a good bill.
When I say the bill was an existing bill, I mean that HR748 was originally a bill introduced last year about other stuff entirely that was turned into a coronavirus bill. I shouldnt have even mentioned it, its just a weird footnote.
1 degree variance I would consider to be way off. They only have to be correct between ~95 degrees and 105 degrees.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
For example, say last week, if you were at 100.5 degrees, and the thermometer says you are 99.9 degrees, you couldn't get corona tested in most of the US.
Who the fuck still goes to the bank in the year 2020Quote:
Originally Posted by blake
Back to mid 97s now, which is actually my normal (and normal for most people, actually).Quote:
Originally Posted by splitthisIf your temp drops below 95 then you have a severe infection. I had a patient that had a 94 once. I couldn’t believe it and took it anal and it was the same. Called the squad, he didn’t live. Either a temp too high or too low can mean infection. Usually people with low temps feel hot not cold so not sure wtf was wrong with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Still feel chills today. Also some mild fatigue. At least I'm not coughing or having breathing issues, so probably not corona.