But, he's not trolling. Just ask him.Quote:
Originally Posted by tony bagadonuts
How rude!Quote:
Originally Posted by Anal_Hershiser
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But, he's not trolling. Just ask him.Quote:
Originally Posted by tony bagadonutsHow rude!Quote:
Originally Posted by Anal_Hershiser
I guess there really is a sucker born every minute. Lol, you fags don't even know if he is actually playing. Excuse after excuse. I really wish I knew how much cash has been scammed from these boards. Gotta be 6 figures. Yet there is never a shortage of asshats willing to blindly send money with no way to verify results. Gotta love the internet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockey GuyBut, he's not trolling. Just ask him.Quote:
Originally Posted by tony bagadonuts
I have contacted every one of my investors...
I am not napping or avoiding anything, I have always stated that I am not available on weekends, that has been standard for me for 2 years now and will not be changing anytime soon...
Tomorrow I will go through this thread, pull out the questions and write a response to all of them.
In case that is not good enough for some of you I am happy to come on PFA radio and let Druff grill me on whatever he wants with no refusal to answer anything....
My investors are my top priority and I will make sure they are all comfortable with the situation first and foremost and after that I am happy to discuss anything else community wide.
I feel like their should be a response from 4Bet in this thread, O never mind
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Originally Posted by Jasep
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Originally Posted by Jasep
Where are his online stats? I don't think I have seen them posted anywhere. Surely a self proclaimed winning poker player of 10+ years has an extensive online poker history.
I also see he ignores people who have brought up the identity theft issue. Sure he's got an excuse for that too. Seems like a solid guy.
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Originally Posted by Jasep
So im confused, are you done whining now?Quote:
Not going underground.... just no longer offering free entertainment and discussion for people who deserve nothing from me
I need a tl;dr on this thread because i'm not reading 19 pages of shit, but based off the first page it seems like he plays mostly live. I'm a losing player online and a winning player live. Just because you have an extensive poker history doesn't mean your stats online reflect well on you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anal_Hershiser
Yea but if you are putting yourself forward as some winning pro worthy of investment, you should be able to beat online poker.Quote:
Originally Posted by anonamooseI need a tl;dr on this thread because i'm not reading 19 pages of shit, but based off the first page it seems like he plays mostly live. I'm a losing player online and a winning player live. Just because you have an extensive poker history doesn't mean your stats online reflect well on you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anal_Hershiser
OK well I sat around all day with no NFL going crazy (fuck the pro bowl) and actually thought of a solution to all of this shit! Again I have no $$ invested here, so if you think I should just butt out I can understand!
But I think Ive come up with a pretty good answer to all of this, so hear me out.
Seems like people have a few issues here.
First they have no fucking idea whether Jasep is reporting his results accurately. There is no way around this one, you either trust him or you dont!
Second people are worried about his background, both his arrest in the past and his poker results that are hard to find or might not exist. Again you either have to trust he is a winning player or don't.
Third people are worried he is a scammer and has already spent or gambled away all of the money. This is where my idea comes in.
Correct me if Im wrong but this 5k stake does not really require Jasep to have all 5k at once. The games he plays there is no way he would ever lose 5k in one session or anything close to that. So maybe Jasep shouldnt be the one holding all 5k if he doesnt need it at the moment.
My solution is to have Jasep keep a working roll of 1k and send the other 4k to Druff to hold for safekeeping. If Jasep keeps winning he will never need that 4k and it can be returned to the backers at some point. If he loses and needs it, then Druff can dole out another 1k to him, etc etc. In the meantime if anyone feels uncomfortable at any point they can get out and Druff will ship them the money prorated for what they lost. Like lets say some dude bought 500 for 10 percent and Jasep is down a total of 400 for the stake, and then the dude wants out. Druff would send him 460 and he would be considered out.
So this idea does not solve the trust issues but it does at least make everyone secure that their $$ has not already been spent on other shit!
What do you guys think? Druff would you do this?
why?Quote:
Originally Posted by donkdowndonediedYea but if you are putting yourself forward as some winning pro worthy of investment, you should be able to beat online poker.Quote:
Originally Posted by anonamoose
there's simply too many distractions playing online poker. when you're sitting at a poker table you can sit there watch and listen to music maybe. when you're online you're either playing a zillion games and incapable of concentrating on all of them or you're off im'ing someone and doing this and that online.
some people just are able to focus better live than online. is that a bad thing?
I am an investor. I did not inherit the money I invested, I earned it the hard way by good decisions and sound investments in the past. I do not have a trust issue with anyone. The suggestion that investors somehow didn't know they were placing trust in Jasep is pretty goofy - from my perspective. Whether the investors made a wise or profitable decision or not will only be known in the future - there is no way to really know until Projekt:Sep is over. Speculation and commenting was and is an expected part of the Projekt:Sep, but I think the focussing on trust that has gone on recently on this board is way over board. It should be obvious to anyone that trust was being placed in Jasep by the investors and I don't know what more needs to be said than that. I haven't really paid attention if any actual investor is complaining in this thread. In any case, I don't think this thread would be the way to complain to Jasep if an investor had a complaint. It seems to me that this thread recently has gone completely to shit. I don't think that is good for Druff, Jasep or the investors.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cokehead
Now getting to Cokehead's idea, I think adding a new party to the arrangement would not in any way help and is completely unnecessary from my perspective. I made a decision to invest based on the terms offered and I have no regrets and I have made no complaints and no requests for any changes. To tell you the truth, I would not have invested if the original offer had been presented this way. So, I do not like the idea outline by Cokehead. While I do appreciate his effort, I actually don't want or need any help from him or anyone else in relation to Projekt:Sep.
I think Projekt:Sep is an interesting idea and I continue to support the idea and Jasep as Projekt:Sep continues.
Please just STFU with your moronic jasep issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4BET
Online Poker is better than live poker by a far stretch the majority of the time IMO. Even the great Doyle Brunson who played live his entire life posted about a million reasons why online is better.Quote:
Originally Posted by anonamoosewhy?Quote:
Originally Posted by donkdowndonedied
there's simply too many distractions playing online poker. when you're sitting at a poker table you can sit there watch and listen to music maybe. when you're online you're either playing a zillion games and incapable of concentrating on all of them or you're off im'ing someone and doing this and that online.
some people just are able to focus better live than online. is that a bad thing?
when you're sitting at a poker table you can sit there watch and listen to music maybe.
You can do this online as well
when you're online you're either playing a zillion games and incapable of concentrating on all
Playing a lot of games is good. You can play enough hands in short periods of time to avoid long downswings that occur live because at best you can only get in a little over 1,000 hands a week live on a 40 hr shift. Maybe 1500 with the right dealers and players playing quick. Online you can get that action in 1 hr. If you are playing too many games then you should close the extra tables.
of them or you're off im'ing someone and doing this and that online.
Then shut off your IM!
Live poker you get small comps, online you get bonuses and rakeback
Live poker you are seated in the game they put you in. Online you can table and site hop all day.
You can watch lobbies all day long and only play good games if you really wanted to online on a $40 internet bill 24-7. Live poker you have to travel to the casino every day and use gas money which adds up fast.
Rake is better online for the most part and you don't have to tip dealers.
2 good things about live poker. If you are a reg in big enough games where you are the best or one of the best I am sure you can make a decent living but at the same time you could just hit variance for a year live and break even. Very rarely will you see a consistent winning online cash player break even or even have a losing year if they are doing things correctly .
Live poker you can get you cash right at the window when you leave. Online it is more difficult to get paid but in my 10 years of online poker I have never been stiffed by a site. Actually 2 of the 3 U.S. sites right now you can cash out in less than 7 days which is good.
it's a lot easier to do what you say when you're in a situation designated for that. not everyone can just plop down on the sidewalk and fall asleep regularly because it's not a place you normally sleep. online may be better for the terms you speak of, but like i said in this caseQuote:
Originally Posted by chinamaniacOnline Poker is better than live poker by a far stretch the majority of the time IMO. Even the great Doyle Brunson who played live his entire life posted about a million reasons why online is better.Quote:
Originally Posted by anonamoose
when you're sitting at a poker table you can sit there watch and listen to music maybe.
You can do this online as well
when you're online you're either playing a zillion games and incapable of concentrating on all
Playing a lot of games is good. You can play enough hands in short periods of time to avoid long downswings that occur live because at best you can only get in a little over 1,000 hands a week live on a 40 hr shift. Maybe 1500 with the right dealers and players playing quick. Online you can get that action in 1 hr. If you are playing too many games then you should close the extra tables.
of them or you're off im'ing someone and doing this and that online.
Then shut off your IM!
Live poker you get small comps, online you get bonuses and rakeback
Live poker you are seated in the game they put you in. Online you can table and site hop all day.
You can watch lobbies all day long and only play good games if you really wanted to online on a $40 internet bill 24-7. Live poker you have to travel to the casino every day and use gas money which adds up fast.
Rake is better online for the most part and you don't have to tip dealers.
2 good things about live poker. If you are a reg in big enough games where you are the best or one of the best I am sure you can make a decent living but at the same time you could just hit variance for a year live and break even. Very rarely will you see a consistent winning online cash player break even or even have a losing year if they are doing things correctly .
Live poker you can get you cash right at the window when you leave. Online it is more difficult to get paid but in my 10 years of online poker I have never been stiffed by a site. Actually 2 of the 3 U.S. sites right now you can cash out in less than 7 days which is good.
i have habits of when i'm on a computer of doing this and that and i have habits of sitting at a poker table in almost a sense of meditation dedicated to poker that i can't achieve playing on a computer. it's just not a mental state i can hit on a computer.
this type of stuff isn't uncommon and can be seen in a variety of every day type items. some people can't wake up without coffee and it ruins their whole day. some people are extremely smart and can take what they learn in a class and put it to use further than anyone else, but couldn't pass a test if their life depended on it. some people are extremely smart and ace every exam but are incapable of putting that knowledge to a practical use.
why is this any different?
yeah there is added expenses but what the hell does that matter when you make a profit using one method vs another you can't make a profit on? when i have a bad beat at a poker room i stand up walk away for a minute talk to some people and come back. i can't do that online it's just not the same.
i also rely strongly on observing people. yeah i know betting patterns and know how to pick off a lot of bluffs using it (and this is probably my one strong point online), but i'm consistently better at it in person when i can see how a person reacts after placing a bet vs just the numbers popping up on the screen.
also when i'm online the multi tabling into games i probably shouldn't be playing just because i find them "fun" occurs constantly too. it's an impulse after i start winning so much and it's not something i've been able to shake. online i can play pretty conservative until i'm up several thousand and then it all starts to go down the drain. it's just my train of thought.
when i'm sitting at one game on one table irl it doesn't matter if i have 1 dollar or 10000 in front of me, i'm concentrating purely on the people in the game and how to get their money.
am i a bad online poker player, yes because i don't have the discipline to do it, and i probably never will. am i a bad poker player, no i don't believe i am.
i have habits of when i'm on a computer of doing this and thatQuote:
Originally Posted by anonamooseit's a lot easier to do what you say when you're in a situation designated for that. not everyone can just plop down on the sidewalk and fall asleep regularly because it's not a place you normally sleep. online may be better for the terms you speak of, but like i said in this caseQuote:
Originally Posted by chinamaniac
i have habits of when i'm on a computer of doing this and that and i have habits of sitting at a poker table in almost a sense of meditation dedicated to poker that i can't achieve playing on a computer. it's just not a mental state i can hit on a computer.
this type of stuff isn't uncommon and can be seen in a variety of every day type items. some people can't wake up without coffee and it ruins their whole day. some people are extremely smart and can take what they learn in a class and put it to use further than anyone else, but couldn't pass a test if their life depended on it. some people are extremely smart and ace every exam but are incapable of putting that knowledge to a practical use.
why is this any different?
yeah there is added expenses but what the hell does that matter when you make a profit using one method vs another you can't make a profit on? when i have a bad beat at a poker room i stand up walk away for a minute talk to some people and come back. i can't do that online it's just not the same.
i also rely strongly on observing people. yeah i know betting patterns and know how to pick off a lot of bluffs using it (and this is probably my one strong point online), but i'm consistently better at it in person when i can see how a person reacts after placing a bet vs just the numbers popping up on the screen.
also when i'm online the multi tabling into games i probably shouldn't be playing just because i find them "fun" occurs constantly too. it's an impulse after i start winning so much and it's not something i've been able to shake. online i can play pretty conservative until i'm up several thousand and then it all starts to go down the drain. it's just my train of thought.
when i'm sitting at one game on one table irl it doesn't matter if i have 1 dollar or 10000 in front of me, i'm concentrating purely on the people in the game and how to get their money.
am i a bad online poker player, yes because i don't have the discipline to do it, and i probably never will. am i a bad poker player, no i don't believe i am.
if you are playing for a living you just can't do that, if you do then it is a leak and you will lose value somewhere. I used to be really bad at what you describe.
yeah there is added expenses but what the hell does that matter when you make a profit using one method vs another you can't make a profit on?
I can only speak for myself but here would be an example for my current situation and why it would matter
I play online poker every day. I can play the amount of hands a live player would play in a full year in 2 weeks. I like the fact that I can break even for 2 weeks online and it doesnt matter. If I played the same amount of hands I just described in a live setting it may take a year and I could break even for that year or even lose big and it may take 2 or 3 years to outrun the live downswing. If I break even or lose for that year that is not a good thing when I can outrun the variance online over time and and hands quickly and turn a very good profit over a year. The less expenses the better and that is the case in every field , any business in the world.
i also rely strongly on observing people. yeah i know betting patterns and know how to pick off a lot of bluffs using it (and this is probably my one strong point online), but i'm consistently better at it in person when i can see how a person reacts after placing a bet vs just the numbers popping up on the screen.
Fair point but I will counter that point with not only the betting patterns which you mentioned but there is a ton of software out there that can make losing players winning players. Hem, notecaddy, ptr etc. Any decent player or even losing player could use PTR and turn themselves from a losing or breakeven player to a winning player with very little work. You may be able to watch a guy put money in the pot but for that one thing there are 10 things that will propel you more online.
also when i'm online the multi tabling into games i probably shouldn't be playing just because i find them "fun" occurs constantly too.
Then you have leaks! You need to fix those to be a winning player online. Also live you are stuck in the game they put you in. You have the option to move around online
Also the biggest poker winners more often than not in poker are HU or shorthanded players. You cannot play either of those games at the casino.
all this other crap aside, can i get a tl;dr
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Originally Posted by Mad Dad
None of this "noise" is coming from the investors/backers. That's all that really needs to be said.
I think theres alot of posts from non pro poker players. Its easy to assume that if you go broke you suck at poker, but speaking from experience its not always true because life costs money. When you have kids rent/mortgage and all the bills that come with them its easy to run into hard times even if your beating the games. Thats why so many young kids are succesfull they live with there parents and are able to keep investing everything they make in themselves.
Whoever said to beat live you should be able to beat online is just insanely wrong. I would bet that 95% of winning live players couldnt beat online cash games for a living. Could they 1 table and win maybe but try playing 30+ at a time like I did. The edge you have is so small compared to playing live. Its almost impossible to be somewhat competant and not beat live cash games.
Is Jasep not available on weekends cuz he's serving em in Sing Sing?
Hello all,
I am going to do my best to answer all the questions that were asked here. I realize that regardless of my answers there will be a certain number of people who don’t believe me or want to troll me, that’s fine. My only focus from this post forward is the future…
Before I get started, let me say that yesterday I was pretty heated and snapped at a few people, didn’t mean to offend cmoney, didn't mean to call cokehead and the like trolls and certainly was never implying there was anything wrong with China’s BAP, that was just a response to it being mentioned…
Also, I have contacted every one of my investors.
Anyway, the questions/comments will be numbered and bold with my answer below; the questions will be paraphrased obviously..
1.)Jasep was evicted….
I was evicted from my very first apartment when I was 19-20 years old, my heat didn’t work and the place that managed the property was unresponsive to my requests, I was young and on my own and didn’t know the proper way to handle these things so I just moved out. Any other eviction is news to me.
2.)Jasep was arrested….
Yes, I was arrested. My daughter’s mother and I went through a messy custody battle and during that time she filed a report where she exaggerated the details of an actual event. In the end I reviewed all of my options with my lawyer and choose the option that we felt would create the least amount of friction in my daughter’s life and would expedite all 3 of us moving on and focusing on raising our kid. I am not going to go into greater detail here because I am not going to publish anything on the internet that speaks negatively of my daughter’s mother. At the time we disliked each other, now we get along very good. I see her twice a week and we communicate on the phone a lot. After the arrest me and her spoke and began working things out in a much more civilized way, my arrest still existed but I am pretty certain that if we had begun the steps to working out our problems much sooner it would have never happened.
3.)Jasep claims to be a 10 year poker pro but has no online stats or a Hendon Mob page?
I have no idea where this even comes from. I do have a Hendon Mob page, as well as a cardplayer page, etc, and I do have online stats, I have said in the past that I only played online minimally and I never really liked it, but I never said I didn’t play online. I was part of a stable of players that was being coached and staked by isport/daaaang. I didn’t get started playing much online until January of 2011, but I played and learned a lot in the time leading up to black Friday, my stars name was TrupQQ, you can go ahead and find me on OPR. Also, I have a page on the WPT site from a 10k I played and didn’t cash in 2005. The fact is 90% of the poker I have played over the last 12 years isn’t tracked by websites, I have traveled to play but most of my poker has been played at Foxwoods, Mohegan Sun and Private rooms in CT and RI. I never claimed to be anything that I am not, walk in to any poker room and you can point to a dozen or more guys who have no online presence but have been earning a living playing poker for decades. Anyone who has frequented either of the two major poker rooms that I play in will 100% recognize me.
4.)There is no way to track his results so obviously he is lying to his backers or shaving.
The entire project was outlined in advance and everyone knew there was going to be a huge amount of trust involved in participating, no one was ever under the impression that this would happen any other way and everyone who invested must have been comfortable with this. I filmed every day that I played, I am not an award winning actor, I am an honest person. Everything I reported is the truth and not one nickel was shaved, my backers had the option to decide if taking my word was good enough for them and everyone decided that it was, yesterday they were all given the option to again take my word and I will have no hard feelings if anyone chooses not to.
5.)Jasep didn’t play the schedule lined out and makes excuse after excuse.
This is kind of hyperbolic, but yeah I substituted days and times that were not originally part of the plan but were done in the best interest of all of us. I have always been very vulnerable to feeling shitty after spending some time away from a poker room and then going back with regularity. I am on the exact pace that my schedule originally called for and on days when I was sick or not feeling great the decision to not play and make the day up was made in the best interest of all of us. I am not going to go chunk off money simply because it is written on a schedule. I make decisions to protect my financial interests as well as my investors, everyone has to trust that if I miss a day there is a good reason for it and we are all better off if I don’t play that day. I became a poker player for the freedom it allows me, that freedom includes not playing if I feel like I will be at a disadvantage that day. With that said, I now have a regular schedule in mind taking in all the information I gathered in the last month and that schedule should be stuck to completely unless there are events going on that will create more value for us.
6.)Your last name isn’t even Sep…
I have never hidden my name from anyone, Sep is a shortened version of my name that I have been called pretty much since birth, my full last name is long and almost everyone says or spells it incorrectly, the 100 or so people that I have done paypal transactions with are all privy to my last name. My screen name was never even intended to be pronounced “JaySep” it was always intended to be J.A.Sep with my first and middle initial… Also my birth name wasn’t John, I am Hispanic, my birth name was Juan, I changed this in 2007 because literally no one ever called me Juan and I hate the name and changing it made me happy.
7.)I was not able to find property in your name!!!
So? I own 25% of a business that at one time owned 3 restaurants, 2 bars and a bunch of rental properties. Today that business owns one rental property and we sold everything else for profit over the course of the last 7 years. I don’t really see how its relevant but the restaurants names have been published and if any of my investors would like more details I would be happy to provide them privately.
8.)Jasep is such a degenerate; his daughter doesn’t even have health insurance…
This isn’t true, my daughter has tremendous health insurance through her mother’s job and every member of my current household has health insurance except me. There is a reasonable chance that I get married in the next 12-24 months and at that point I will have health insurance as well. Also, I don’t pit or slot gamble and if I am not in a game you can generally find me on my laptop or reading one of the free magazines, not firing away at the roulette table with bad intentions.
9.)Jasep is going underground now that everyone knows he is a scammer…
I am just as above ground as I have always been and I am not and never have been a scammer. Everyone who has invested in project Sep has 4 or 5 ways to get in touch with me including 2 phone numbers etc. if any of them ask they can also have my home address, I am not running or hiding from anything. I may take a break from radio for a week or 2 to find a new co-host and make some changes to VPR or I may do a shortened show this week but I will be back doing it as I always have.
10.)Mark and Brandon left VPR because of this…
You have to ask those guys their reasons for leaving and it is up to them if they want to share them with you. Like I said in the other thread, I consider both of them friends and have no hard feelings with them leaving and I wish them nothing but the best.
I think that covers everything, I may have missed some questions, there is a lot of garbage in this thread. The main point that I want to get across is that I have been in communication with all of my backers and no one has been victimized or ripped off and I am more than willing to talk with any of them about it for as long as they need and give them whatever resolution they are comfortable with.
Now, my job is to go play poker, and do the things I said I was going to do, I am going to play tomorrow, Wednesday and Thursday. And then I will be back on my updated regular schedule. So far my investors are solidly behind me and that is good enough for me. The results of this project will speak for themselves. Anyone is welcome to PM me on VPR if they have any questions.
Jasep thanks for answering the above. If you dont mind can you please answer a few more questions-
1. You said you would pay out every Thursday night. The first week you did not do that and made some excuse, then said you played Friday and lost most of that weeks profits. That was huge red flag #1 to me. Can you explain why you didnt just pay out Thursday like you said?
2. I dont think your private life is any of our business but Im sorry, I just dont believe you accepted a convction for something you didnt do, just so you could have less friction with your daughters mom. I think it would be better if you just told us the truth and that you made a mistake.
3. Can you do anything to prove you still have the $$$ people invested? I think your critics here believe you took the money and spent it on other things and are just playing with a minimal roll and are pretending to have 5k behind.
4. Can you explain why you waited so long between collecting the $$$ and starting to play? It looks like you purposely put a large gap of time in between. I have been a member of the staking community for many years (even posted on neverbeg in the past lol) and Ive never seen such a thing.
BTW just to let u know, a few of your investors have sent me private messages and told me to keep pressing with these Qs cuz they are nervous. They said they would rather I do it than them because you are holding their $$$ and dont want to piss u off. So in case you think I am just some asshole or troll starting shit, Im really not.
LOL at buying pieces of a guy's live action that you have never met.
And holy shit, he turns out to be dodgy with trip reports, payouts etc?
I may have to look more into this whole 'catfishing' phenomenon because for the life of me I cannot figure out how people can be so stupid with money.
LOL, "a few of [his] investors"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cokehead
WHO?
Why don't they ask him themselves, publicly or privately? He's given investors multiple ways to contact him.
Seriously STFU. If his investors have been sending you private messages asking you to press him, they should just message him privately. I had one question that I took up privately and he answered it fully. I suggest that any other investor do the same, but I highly doubt anyone has contacted you saying this. Fuck off, you're just trying to start up shit again. Stay out of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cokehead
He's just doing this for attention and drama like the fucking piece of shit he is. I suggest Jasep ignores everyone from here on out who is not an investor. At this point anything that needs to be asked should come from an investor not, a fucktard like this guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by SandwichLOL, "a few of [his] investors"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cokehead
WHO?
Why don't they ask him themselves, publicly or privately? He's given investors multiple ways to contact him.
No I am not ratting out the people who contacted me.
Why are you guys getting so pissed at me for stating the obv? Do you not think my points are valid here?
If any of his actual investors want to ask him this, they should do so privately. He has already given out enough about his life to people who don't have any stake in this. If his investors want to ask him this, they have 4-5 ways of communicating with him. Stay out of it if it has NOTHING to do with you at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cokehead
Excuse me but this is a public thread on a public forum. If u want this shit to stay private, do all of this thru PM or on a password protected forum on his site.Quote:
Originally Posted by handicapmeIf any of his actual investors want to ask him this, they should do so privately. He has already given out enough about his life to people who don't have any stake in this. If his investors want to ask him this, they have 4-5 ways of communicating with him. Stay out of it if it has NOTHING to do with you at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cokehead
If u start a thread here like this looking for stakes from the public then u should be willing to take the tough Qs.
Are we still waiting for your silk road drug purchase trip report?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cokehead
Good post jasep
OBV if jasep is fucking around he will get anhilated on this forum only crazy fuckers would do this.
Cliffs:Quote:
Originally Posted by anonamoose
Jasep asks for stakes for Projekt Sep
Stakes sell out quickly
Genius points out backers have to trust Jasep
Trolls fag up thread
Are you fucking kidding me?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cokehead
So this implies you don't have any vested interest, too?
If that is true I'm calling BS on the investors emailing you, and and If I was Jasep, "Go f your mother" would be my reply to all your questions.
And if I read that wrong and you do have some, Fucking A, stop staking people.
you don't have the risk tolerance.
No one has money w/Jasep that they didn't know they could lose.
We all knew the risks before hand and nothing has changed.
No one has their life savings w/him.
No one has enough money w/him to care as much as you 2 morons, who have a combined 0 cents at risk.
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Originally Posted by Belly Buster
Since when is it a prerequisite to have a personal financial interest in someone you think is scamming to bring it up? I can't count the number of times all you faggots have gossiped like little school girls about anyone and everyone in the poker world accused of scamming. Did you have any money with Erick Lindgren? No? That didn't stop you from flapping your cum soaked lips about the guy. You're one of the worst fucking gossip whores on this site. This faggot posted a begging thread in a public forum. He has said and done some dodgy things. If fucktards like you wanna keep giving him money, go ahead. That won't stop others from calling him out on his bullshit. Don't like it? Do the world a favor and go kill yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyG_415Are you fucking kidding me?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cokehead
So this implies you don't have any vested interest, too?
If that is true I'm calling BS on the investors emailing you, and and If I was Jasep, "Go f your mother" would be my reply to all your questions.
And if I read that wrong and you do have some, Fucking A, stop staking people.
you don't have the risk tolerance.
No one has money w/Jasep that they didn't know they could lose.
We all knew the risks before hand and nothing has changed.
No one has their life savings w/him.
No one has enough money w/him to care as much as you 2 morons, who have a combined 0 cents at risk.
What really amazes me is what people tell me in im's but are afraid to post in the forums. Some of the stuff people tell me would change a lot of minds awfully quick.
juan estola
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So tell us some of this stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anal_Hershiser
Jesap, a few thoughts. First, fuck the haters here. The place is filled with life losers who absolutely despise people who succeed and are praying everyday that you fail so they can laugh at you. If you do somehow succeed, they will call bullshit on it and ask for proof. When you post proof of cash (see nbh's thread) they will say its from something else. People here are basically human trash.
Shut it down. You're in a serious relationship. Now make sure forum, radio and gambling doesn't ruin it. Stop trying to make a living by gambling. You're thirty something. Start acting like it. Find a career and start saving for a house and retirement. Shut VPR down and stay out of this place.
Nobody believes you, including me, about your arrest but its nobody's business. You don't owe anyone here excuses, not even your investors. If they have a problem then ship their funds back and be done with them. This place isn't meant to be as personal as these dicks are making it.
Personally, I'd shut down your project, ship everyone their funds and disappear knowing your life will be better than 95% of the members here because you at least found love.
So, in 12 days of playing mainly low limit stud you are +84. Sounds about right. You might be a little under expectation, but probably not by as much as you think you are. After the rake there just isn't much money to be made in low ilmit live poker. FWIW, I really think if you want to give yourself (and your investors) a chance at a profit you have to take a shot in a bigger game (assuming you are +EV in the first place).
No matter how terrible a thread ends up, theres always a fleck of gold in it somewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by WillieMcFML
And Pooh, as long as Sep is making a profit/more money than he would if he wasnt playing, he should continue it.
It shows committment and the ability to plan, manage time and meet goals. It shows the ability to overcome unexpected challenges.
Of course if he sets $2000 on fire in a week then he probably should conisder stopping.