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Originally Posted by
vegas1369
I think George Zimmerman was a wuss who got in too deep, but I don't think he instigated the confrontation. His actions definitely led to it, but I think Trayvon Martin's actions played a bigger part.
I would be willing to bet that as an adult Zimmerman had never been in an altercation until that night. He was too stupid and naive to realize the danger he put himself in when he walked down that walkway into the darkness.
At the same time I truly believe Trayvon Martin hid out of site and sized Zimmerman up and ultimately made the decision to confront and teach Zimmerman a lesson.
A big misconception I've seen in the social media is that Zimmerman had his eyes on Martin the entire time. This is false. Martin was close to his home, easily over 50 yards away from Zimmerman who was still in his truck at the time. Martin could have just as easily made the right down the walkway, been out of view of Zimmerman, gone to his home and none of this would have happened. Instead he doubled back, circled Zimmerman's vehicle to check him out, then took off and ran, and ultimately hid in the darkness while Zimmerman passed him. Zimmerman's biggest mistake was to get out of the truck at that point to see if he could see where Martin went and to get an address. I don't think a confrontation with this guy was in the realm of possibilities in his mind, which is incredibly naive. It's a good thing for him being out of touch with the dangers of following and provoking someone isn't against the law.
I meant instigate in terms of following. Getting followed by some weird cat when I'm not doing anything would provoke me. Clearly he knew he was being followed from the testimony of the girl, and even from his own team's explanation that Travon doubled back. You can't double back if you aren't being followed.
I can recall more than one occasion when I was young where someone questioned what I was doing when it was none of their business. It was always older, nosy motherfuckers. It was usually an exchange like, "what are you doing out here at this time of night?" And my reply, if on public property, was always something smart ass, like " your daughter told me to wait out here until you went to sleep and then she'd blow me." It was always guys that were more 50's and 60's, so that was the end of it. But if some 20 something said it, I wouldn't have hesitated to start a fight with him. Fuck, I'm not doing anything, mind your own fucking business. I'm fortunate not every wannabe could carry a concealed weapon legally back then.
Had he caught Travon breaking into a home, a car, doing anything illegal, then fine. But if you want to follow some kid for no reason, take your beating. Like .0001% of those fights end in death, and you provoked the whole thing erroneously.
There are no shortage of tightly wound 17 year old middleweights who could hand me my ass if they caught me by surprise, or just because they are badasses. But that kid was a beanpole, and getting flung around from grass to pavement, etc. is just absurd. I could even grasp if he would have got straight knocked out, and some elderly neighbor came out and lit Travon up because he thought the kid was going too far and beating an unconscious guy. But he didn't get knocked out, he was crying the whole time on 3 different 911 calls,
To me, his injuries weren't life threatening, or even close to it. I think you should have to actually be in grave danger, not just think you are. If I have to pull a gun to fend off a kid like that, I'm shooting myself in the head out of embarrassment.
I don't disagree the kid very likely was the aggressor, and it cost him his life. I don't disagree with the jury verdicts given the law, but it's fucked up. I wasn't talking about anyone posting here. I just see GZ being lionized in comments sections all over the place, or on talk radio as some kind of righteous defender, when in reality, he's just a sad little poor excuse for a man.