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Your entire argument is that he lost as an amateur and had a close pro fight.
Can't mention him with Sugar Ray Robinson who lost 19 times, though.
Your own goddamn argument works against you.
I love people bringing up Sugar Ray Robinson all the time. Yeah bro I'm sure you've really analyzed those 3 videos from 1947 long enough to form an intelligent argument.
Yeah I watches the Castillo fight and he was def having problems there with his aggression. Close but seemed like he didn't do enough ftw.
Not sure bout Maidana, some say he lost first 1 too, bit he put a poll on twitter who he should fight next and the result was khan but he never fought him - they say styles make fighys, and khans speed would have been better
Obv he also ducked Margarito
Close fights aren't "gift decisions".Quote:
Originally Posted by RegGaymer
All Khan had was speed.
And "styles makes fights" is the most over used phrase in boxing. If the style made the fight, the same style would win every time. It's the ability to implement the style that wins the fight. And Khan was terrible at sticking to a gameplan.
That fight goes something like.....Khan starts out with quick jabs. Floyd gets the timing down of his jab, starts to counter. Khan stops throwing the jab because of the counters. Floyd sweeps the late rounds and wins 8 rounds to 4.
It takes more than speed.
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Originally Posted by JMMClose fights aren't "gift decisions".Quote:
Originally Posted by RegGaymer
All Khan had was speed.
And "styles makes fights" is the most over used phrase in boxing. If the style made the fight, the same style would win every time. It's the ability to implement the style that wins the fight. And Khan was terrible at sticking to a gameplan.
That fight goes something like.....Khan starts out with quick jabs. Floyd gets the timing down of his jab, starts to counter. Khan stops throwing the jab because of the counters. Floyd sweeps the late rounds and wins 8 rounds 4.
It takes more than speed.
What he said
That's the only legitimate fight that I think anyone can say he ducked.Quote:
Originally Posted by RegGaymer
Granted, he did turn it away to make $8 million, and win a title in an easier fight. Anyone in his position would have done the same.
May weather got his ass handed to him in sparring years ago by some American Italian boxer, can't remember his name, who got sent down for beating his gf and pulling a flick knife and a blueberry muffin at a grocery store checkout
Paul Spadafora.Quote:
Originally Posted by RegGaymer
And that was a rumor.
And it was sparring.
And sparring isn't a real fight.
And you're grasping at straws.
I can do this all night. Keep 'em coming.
Lol its not a rumour
No smoke without fire ya get me
Tis true that sparring stories are to be taken with a pinch of salt tho
Of course it was a rumor. There's no proof of it happening, so it's as good as he said/she said.Quote:
Originally Posted by RegGaymer
I believe Spadafora probably did get the better of him in a sparring session.
In a....SPARRING session.
Sparring isn't about winning. It's about testing. You try new things, new moves, punches from different angles, setting up traps, working on your stamina, defense, etc.
Sparring isn't judged because sparring is training.
lol jmm loves boxing so much hes out here arguing with an actual retard JUST FOR THE LOVE OF THE SPORT
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Originally Posted by JMMThat's the only legitimate fight that I think anyone can say he ducked.Quote:
Originally Posted by RegGaymer
Granted, he did turn it away to make $8 million, and win a title in an easier fight. Anyone in his position would have done the same.
I disagree. I think he ducked a lot of people including Manny for many years. He should have fought Cotto 3 years earlier. I also consider fighting Canelo when he was only 21 a pretty shitty thing to do. He did not fight the best available fighters the last 6 years of his career.... he is still, in my opinion, the best boxer of all time. I think Julio César Chávez is high on the list of best boxers ever and he always fought the best available boxers.
I have lolwow on ignore bcoz he used to be a terrible poster.
I now read his posts when I get the chance as he is competition on here and that's saying something
No offense but u sound like somewhere in the middle of casual and boxing expertQuote:
Originally Posted by El GalloQuote:
Originally Posted by JMM
I disagree. I think he ducked a lot of people including Manny for many years. He should have fought Cotto 3 years earlier. I also consider fighting Canelo when he was only 21 a pretty shitty thing to do. He did not fight the best available fighters the last 6 years of his career.... he is still, in my opinion, the best boxer of all time. I think Julio César Chávez is high on the list of best boxers ever and he always fought the best available boxers.
Chavez Jr is nothing compared to his father / thread
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Originally Posted by RegGaymerNo offense but u sound like somewhere in the middle of casual and boxing expertQuote:
Originally Posted by El Gallo
Chavez Jr is nothing compared to his father / thread
Lol... read again... I didn't say Jr
Never mind.
I don't have the energy to go through the Manny ordeal again. Long story short, I blame 90% of that fight not happening sooner on Bob Arum. He knew Manny wasn't beating Floyd so he made excuses to hold the fight up. Remember, Arum said Mayweather was the best he'd seen since Ali. Until he left Top Rank. Then the shit storm began.Quote:
Originally Posted by El GalloQuote:
Originally Posted by JMM
I disagree. I think he ducked a lot of people including Manny for many years. He should have fought Cotto 3 years earlier. I also consider fighting Canelo when he was only 21 a pretty shitty thing to do. He did not fight the best available fighters the last 6 years of his career.... he is still, in my opinion, the best boxer of all time. I think Julio César Chávez is high on the list of best boxers ever and he always fought the best available boxers.
Floyd tried to fight Cotto earlier. Cotto's team said he wasn't ready. Canelo had over 40 pro fights when he fought Floyd. He's the same fighter today, that he was then. He'd lose the exact same way in a rematch. Canelo just doesn't fight in the manner that it takes to rattle Mayweather. I do think he's got a real good shot to beat GGG, though.
People forget that Mayweather tried to fight a lot of these guys early on. They didn't want any part of him until he became the cash cow. Mosley didn't want him at 140 because he had to get some dental work done. Cotto said it was too early. Pacquiao wanted a cutoff date for drug testing.
People just hate Mayweather because he's a shitty person. Which is fine, but it blinds them from the facts.
Smartest thing you've said.Quote:
Originally Posted by RegGaymer
Apologies el gallo for not reading your post properly
You still a boxing casual tho
Enjoy smoking Floyd Mayweather dick u loser
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Again, I'm not a Mayweather fan. But he is the best boxer in history... why is calling me a casual fan an insult in your mind? Are you an expert in the sport of boxing... I was unaware.