Houston died from drowning, coroner says

[NaturalBornHustler]

That first report was all types of wrong. She had a heart attack from the coke and that is why she drowned.



And someone took the shit out of the room when they found her. There is a nice little quarter oz chunk approx. in a baggie in the bottom left picture clear as day.

http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/22/whitne.../#.T2v9sflRcms

Or is it a crumpled up napkin? If the investigators say they found no traces of cocaine or any other illegal substance, then when was this pic taken, and who took it?

Nope, it is a bag with a knot tied in the top. Trust me I know one when I see one, and that is what it is 100%.

Just eyeballing it like I said looks like about a quarter chunk, or maybe 5 or 6 grams.

And unfortunately I can confirm from experience that after doing coke all night and being completely at the end of your rope, you want to jump into the shower/bath just to relax and calm you the fuck down because you are so spent.

[FPS_Russia]

Meet Raffles Van Exel, the guy who sold The Enquirer the casket photo/con man/wanna be singer. Here's a video with him telling how he infiltrates celebrity inner circles, gets entry to events without tickets,etc. He bullshit's Stevie Wonder saying he's someone son he knows. He goes to the Barret Jackson auto auction where they have a band playing, he gets on stage and sings La Bamba and the band doesn't even know who the fuck he is, all in this video. He even makes this how to con man video like it's normal, lol something fascinating about world class con men.

[408Mike]

That first report was all types of wrong. She had a heart attack from the coke and that is why she drowned.

An official for the L.A. County Coroner's Office just stated ... Whitney Houston used cocaine immediately prior to her death.

Coroner Chief Craig Harvey just held a news conference -- claiming the toxicology results suggested Whitney was a "chronic" cocaine user.

Harvey described the cocaine level in Whitney's system as "acute" -- indicating Whitney used the drug not long before she accidentally drowned in a bathtub at the Beverly Hilton hotel last month. "Accidental drowning" is listed as Whitney's official cause of death.

According to Harvey, the autopsy revealed a 60% narrowing of Whitney's arteries -- a direct result of the chronic cocaine use. Harvey claims the artery constriction led to a cardiac event before her death.

And someone took the shit out of the room when they found her. There is a nice little quarter oz chunk approx. in a baggie in the bottom left picture clear as day.

http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/22/whitne.../#.T2v9sflRcms

More like 10 grams or so I am guessing, pretty fucking funny (and yet sad) to see this big boulder of coke sitting nonchalant like "hey what's up guys? Don't mind the massive rock of pure sweet yola sitting by your elbow. Please, enjoy the french toast! It's to die for!"

and it truly was.

[vegas1369]

That first report was all types of wrong. She had a heart attack from the coke and that is why she drowned.



And someone took the shit out of the room when they found her. There is a nice little quarter oz chunk approx. in a baggie in the bottom left picture clear as day.

http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/22/whitne.../#.T2v9sflRcms

More like 10 grams or so I am guessing, pretty fucking funny (and yet sad) to see this big boulder of coke sitting nonchalant like "hey what's up guys? Don't mind the massive rock of pure sweet yola sitting by your elbow. Please, enjoy the french toast! It's to die for!"

and it truly was.

IT'S A FUCKING NAPKIN!!!!


AGAIN I ASK, IF THE POLICE SAID THERE WAS NO COKE FOUND IN THE ROOM THEN WHEN WAS THIS PIC TAKEN, AND BY WHOM? DID SOMEONE TAKE PICS OF THE ROOM BEFORE THE POLICE GOT THERE AND THEN REMOVED THE COKE? C'MON MAN!!!

Actually, maybe that did happen, it seems somewhat plausible.... I don't know. Fuck it.

[Bootsy Collins]

More like 10 grams or so I am guessing, pretty fucking funny (and yet sad) to see this big boulder of coke sitting nonchalant like "hey what's up guys? Don't mind the massive rock of pure sweet yola sitting by your elbow. Please, enjoy the french toast! It's to die for!"

and it truly was.

IT'S A FUCKING NAPKIN!!!!


AGAIN I ASK, IF THE POLICE SAID THERE WAS NO COKE FOUND IN THE ROOM THEN WHEN WAS THIS PIC TAKEN, AND BY WHOM? DID SOMEONE TAKE PICS OF THE ROOM BEFORE THE POLICE GOT THERE AND THEN REMOVED THE COKE? C'MON MAN!!!

[DirtyB]

IT'S A FUCKING NAPKIN!!!!

AGAIN I ASK, IF THE POLICE SAID THERE WAS NO COKE FOUND IN THE ROOM THEN WHEN WAS THIS PIC TAKEN, AND BY WHOM? DID SOMEONE TAKE PICS OF THE ROOM BEFORE THE POLICE GOT THERE AND THEN REMOVED THE COKE? C'MON MAN!!!

Actually, maybe that did happen, it seems somewhat plausible.... I don't know. Fuck it.

Based on where it is, it's definitely a napkin.

The person who cleaned the drugs out of the room would not have document their crime with cell phone pictures, and then sold those pictures to TMZ.

When Health Ledger's maid found him dead, before calling 911, she called Mary Kate Olsen to come clean up all of the drugs.

[NaturalBornHustler]

That first report was all types of wrong. She had a heart attack from the coke and that is why she drowned.



And someone took the shit out of the room when they found her. There is a nice little quarter oz chunk approx. in a baggie in the bottom left picture clear as day.

http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/22/whitne.../#.T2v9sflRcms

More like 10 grams or so I am guessing, pretty fucking funny (and yet sad) to see this big boulder of coke sitting nonchalant like "hey what's up guys? Don't mind the massive rock of pure sweet yola sitting by your elbow. Please, enjoy the french toast! It's to die for!"

and it truly was.

Yeah looking at it again you are right, that is a nice size rock. Definitely around 10 grams or so judging by the "knot to chunk" ratio. Probably got a half oz and then did about an 8 ball out of it.

[NaturalBornHustler]

More like 10 grams or so I am guessing, pretty fucking funny (and yet sad) to see this big boulder of coke sitting nonchalant like "hey what's up guys? Don't mind the massive rock of pure sweet yola sitting by your elbow. Please, enjoy the french toast! It's to die for!"

and it truly was.

IT'S A FUCKING NAPKIN!!!!


AGAIN I ASK, IF THE POLICE SAID THERE WAS NO COKE FOUND IN THE ROOM THEN WHEN WAS THIS PIC TAKEN, AND BY WHOM? DID SOMEONE TAKE PICS OF THE ROOM BEFORE THE POLICE GOT THERE AND THEN REMOVED THE COKE? C'MON MAN!!!

Actually, maybe that did happen, it seems somewhat plausible.... I don't know. Fuck it.

Dude...that is not a napkin LOL. Not even a doubt.

I am guessing you have never seen 10 grams or so in solid form in the corner of a bag tied off and the shape. It isn't even a question take it from two people who know.

[NaturalBornHustler]

OMG let me try to explain this after seeing Barry's post. When you crumple up a napkin it first of all is going to be MUCH larger than that. Second of all it is not going to be in that shape, it will be fairly consistently round. That object is NONE OF THE ABOVE.

That has a big rock at the bottom, and the knot is smaller than the chunk and the shape is a larger ball on the bottom and a slightly smaller knot at the top, making the shape inconsistent. Almost like a 2 tiered snowman with a smaller top ball being the head, that is something very similar to that shape in the picture. Unless Houston carefully shaped the "napkin" in that form there is no way it can look like that.

Again, if you have never seen coke like that bagged up in solid form like that you will not recognize the shape but it is so clear it isn't even funny. But go ahead believe what you want not even knowing what you are looking for in the picture.

[408Mike]

OMG let me try to explain this after seeing Barry's post. When you crumple up a napkin it first of all is going to be MUCH larger than that. Second of all it is not going to be in that shape, it will be fairly consistently round. That object is NONE OF THE ABOVE.

That has a big rock at the bottom, and the knot is smaller than the chunk and the shape is a larger ball on the bottom and a slightly smaller knot at the top, making the shape inconsistent. Almost like a 2 tiered snowman with a smaller top ball being the head, that is something very similar to that shape in the picture. Unless Houston carefully shaped the "napkin" in that form there is no way it can look like that.

Again, if you have never seen coke like that bagged up in solid form like that you will not recognize the shape but it is so clear it isn't even funny. But go ahead believe what you want not even knowing what you are looking for in the picture.

This man knows his dope. I have only seen coke like that a few times when it was pure, meth quite a few as my friends usually bought a quarter at a time or a half and either way it was coming as a big solid chunk and both are actually quite beautiful. Coke very pearly and radiant, meth similar but more grayish and clear, like glass. Both are salts of course but still. Either way though, the snowman look definitely gives it away to me, the appearance is not consistent with a napkin at all and I do not get fiendish urges looking at napkins ever.

Oh and the snowman appearance-the way it looks like the rock on the bottom is much larger than the knot at the top- this happens while breaking the rock apart in order to consume it. Probably came like NBH said like a half zip (ounce) single rock and she just grabs a corner, breaks off a chunk and goes to work. Goes back to the same spot, breaks off a piece, and from there it's almost like it unwinds itself from that area. I have seen it so many times it's not funny. That is definitely not a fucking napkin.

[vegas1369]

IT'S A FUCKING NAPKIN!!!!


AGAIN I ASK, IF THE POLICE SAID THERE WAS NO COKE FOUND IN THE ROOM THEN WHEN WAS THIS PIC TAKEN, AND BY WHOM? DID SOMEONE TAKE PICS OF THE ROOM BEFORE THE POLICE GOT THERE AND THEN REMOVED THE COKE? C'MON MAN!!!

Actually, maybe that did happen, it seems somewhat plausible.... I don't know. Fuck it.

Dude...that is not a napkin LOL. Not even a doubt.

I am guessing you have never seen 10 grams or so in solid form in the corner of a bag tied off and the shape. It isn't even a question take it from two people who know.

OK Mr. I know what what coke looks like and you don't. Dude, I was fucking around with this garbage most likely before you were even riding around on a big wheel, I know what a rock looks like. I am not saying that doesn't look like a rock, I am saying, and this is the part you have been conveniently avoiding, is that IF THE POLICE FOUND NOTHING IN THE ROOM THEN WHO TOOK THIS PIC AND WHEN? To believe that is a rock you have to believe that someone was stupid enough to go into the room of a famous dead woman, take pics before the police got there, clean up the evidence, then sell these pics to TMZ. If this happened then that person committed a serious crime and then handed the evidence over to TMZ for all to see. So either that is one dumb fuck, or you are wrong and it's a napkin.

And BTW, I deal with paper napkins every day, and I see them crumpled up looking like that all the time.

Also, how come no other news outlets like TMZ are saying that is a rock? Do they not know what one looks like either?

If you are going to continue on saying it is definitely a rock, please address the photo issue that I have been bringing up each time I respond to you about this and why no other news outlets are reporting it.

[408Mike]

Dude...that is not a napkin LOL. Not even a doubt.

I am guessing you have never seen 10 grams or so in solid form in the corner of a bag tied off and the shape. It isn't even a question take it from two people who know.

OK Mr. I know what what coke looks like and you don't. Dude, I was fucking around with this garbage most likely before you were even riding around on a big wheel, I know what a rock looks like. I am not saying that doesn't look like a rock, I am saying, and this is the part you have been conveniently avoiding, is that IF THE POLICE FOUND NOTHING IN THE ROOM THEN WHO TOOK THIS PIC AND WHEN? To believe that is a rock you have to believe that someone was stupid enough to go into the room of a famous dead woman, take pics before the police got there, clean up the evidence, then sell these pics to TMZ. If this happened then that person committed a serious crime and then handed the evidence over to TMZ for all to see. So either that is one dumb fuck, or you are wrong and it's a napkin.

And BTW, I deal with paper napkins every day, and I see them crumpled up looking like that all the time.

Also, how come no other news outlets like TMZ are saying that is a rock? Do they not know what one looks like either?

If you are going to continue on saying it is definitely a rock, please address the photo issue that I have been bringing up each time I respond to you about this and why no other news outlets are reporting it.

I'll be your Huckleberry Vegas. Let's look at the most obvious fact that it's not a napkin here- looking at the picture on the left, the object in question could possibly be a napkin tied up, but unfolded no napkin on earth creates a shape like that. $50 bucks if you can prove me wrong on video.

Also the rock is on the tray with coffee and what not, it isn't where the rest of the food was or meant to be consumed. This is in line with what you'd expect her to think of it, just a coffee or something to make her feel good. The money doesn't mean anything so it has little value to her. Just chilling up with the coffee and pastries like I would expect from a long time wealthy user.

The object in the picture clearly also has mass and weight. Let me show you some napkin examples for reference and some coke chunks to compare.

Napkins : q



coke



take the pic above and imagine it weighing 10 grams instead of maybe 1 gram and tell me you can't see a similarity.

I could only find the one good picture but it's enuf. Clearly the napkins look nothing like this

[FPS_Russia]

97% Napkin or some type paper trash
3% Coke, the knot would be darker than the bottom if it was Coke.

[vegas1369]

I'll be your Huckleberry Vegas. Let's look at the most obvious fact that it's not a napkin here- looking at the picture on the left, the object in question could possibly be a napkin tied up, but unfolded no napkin on earth creates a shape like that. $50 bucks if you can prove me wrong on video.

Let's just forget the fact that you completely missed the point of my last post, and move on to how you are going to ship me $50....



This literally took me less than a minute to set up... If you want I can take 5 and mold it to look pretty much identical to the object in question.

I don't think that is really necessary at this point though.

So, do you have paypal?

[FPS_Russia]

Wow that was pwnage. At first I thought you broke out your coke stash. Vegas your golf swing is wack tho, 150 yards with the driver or so.

[vegas1369]

Wow that was pwnage. At first I thought you broke out your coke stash.

Fucking 408.

[vegas1369]

Wow that was pwnage. At first I thought you broke out your coke stash. Vegas your golf swing is wack tho, 150 yards with the driver or so.

Dude, that was back when I first started playing again after a 25 year lay off. I agree, the swing was horrible, all arms, no hips, no chest connection, rists out of place, outside/in swing path, club face all fucked up, flat footed, etc... but believe it or not I was hitting some 275+ yard drives back then, when I was hitting straight, which wasn't often. I have been taking weekly lessons since August and my swing is pretty close to complete, had to rebuild it from scratch. Consistency is going to take time, but the swing is looking a million times better now. Shot a 39 yesterday, only had time for 9. Short game has really been dialed in lately as well.

I have videos of all this to back me up to if you want to give me $50

[SixToedPete]

I agree. However, Micon did well. If I trained Micon, he would be ready.

DirtyB should defend his title.

The entire point of that boxing match is that it was the first punches either of us had thrown in our lives. Training was specifically forbidden.

In the pre-fight interview, I mention the Fight Club line "How can you know anything about yourself if you've never been in a fight?". At the beginning of the fourth round I was walking towards him with my hands way too low, and he hits me square in the face with a straight right and busts my nose. I've watched it 20 times and my immediate reaction is to take another step forward and start punching as fast and as hard as a I could. I'm very proud of that.

If Micon really wanted a rematch, I would give it to him. But I don't think he does and I would be perfectly fine with never throwing another punch in my life.

Well said. You and Micon should feel proud.

[FPS_Russia]

Wow that was pwnage. At first I thought you broke out your coke stash. Vegas your golf swing is wack tho, 150 yards with the driver or so.

Dude, that was back when I first started playing again after a 25 year lay off. I agree, the swing was horrible, all arms, no hips, no chest connection, rists out of place, outside/in swing path, club face all fucked up, flat footed, etc... but believe it or not I was hitting some 275+ yard drives back then, when I was hitting straight, which wasn't often. I have been taking weekly lessons since August and my swing is pretty close to complete, had to rebuild it from scratch. Consistency is going to take time, but the swing is looking a million times better now. Shot a 39 yesterday, only had time for 9. Short game has really been dialed in lately as well.

I have videos of all this to back me up to if you want to give me $50

39's pretty good. I use a Callaway Driver myself. I got you crushed off the tees but my putting is totally wack, I haven't played in year or two. Hell nah on the $50, you're a big dude, 375 yards sounds more reasonable for your size and swing lesson's and frequent play, modern drivers modern golf balls etc. Piece of cake, post a 375 yard drive within 2 day's or you owe me $50. You want that deal? Flat ground, no wind, not on cement/ black top, on a golf course, you hitting the ball.

JK I'm not messing with these Vegas hustlers.

[sonatine]

I'll be your Huckleberry Vegas. Let's look at the most obvious fact that it's not a napkin here- looking at the picture on the left, the object in question could possibly be a napkin tied up, but unfolded no napkin on earth creates a shape like that. $50 bucks if you can prove me wrong on video.

Let's just forget the fact that you completely missed the point of my last post, and move on to how you are going to ship me $50....



This literally took me less than a minute to set up... If you want I can take 5 and mold it to look pretty much identical to the object in question.

I don't think that is really necessary at this point though.

So, do you have paypal?

This forum just climbed to the top of the awesome pile.