Roulette dealer arrested, charged with attempting to make "lucky numbers" hit

[Dan Druff]

Robert Valle, a roulette dealer at Meadows Casino in Pennsylvania, has been arrested and charged with conspiracy.

His crime?

He would tell patrons that their "lucky number is 4", and then would try to make it hit for them.

That sounds bad, until you realize that roulette wheels are designed to where dealers cannot have influence on where the ball ends up landing, even if they try.

So Valle thought he was doing something harmless and good for business by telling customers he would try to hit their number (and actually make an attempt to do so), but he ended up being arrested and charged.

Oddly enough, none of his co-workers or supervisors at the casino felt he was doing anything wrong. He was arrested when someone reported him to state gaming authorities, who then had that informant show up at the wheel with a hidden recording device.

There is no question that Valle advised customers on their "lucky number" and tried to hit it, but given that it appears he had no actual power to make that happen, I can't see how he will be convicted here.

Pretty bad arrest.

Fellow dealers have put on fundraisers for Valle's legal expenses.

Valle refuses to plead guilty, in part because he will lose his gaming license if he does.

[Hockey Guy]

The only issue I see here is if he was really trying to convince players that he could control it by some quirk & made them believe it then they kept playing/bet more than they could afford to lose & lost because they really believed him.

[sd858duece]

he probably just have to pay a fine which is still screwed up...

[cmoney]

This is retarded. Fifty percent of the time I am at ant roulette table in Vegas the dealer gives me some "tip" about what number to play. For example, he will say something lioke why you not betting on number 8? Or something like that. I think the idea is that if the dealer says some number and if he actually hits it you will tip him more.

Idiots that believe the dealer has any power over the roulette wheel are the same idiots that look at the history board of the numbers that hit and base their bets on that.

[DannyDeadWood]

Not long ago I played some roulette and for over an hour I'd play my numbers and I'd play any number the dealer wanted me too play. I made the deal, if it hit I'd split the winnings with him/her. you can't tell me in over an hour of play the dealer was not trying to hit there number? which they didn't

[jsearles22]

This is retarded. Fifty percent of the time I am at ant roulette table in Vegas the dealer gives me some "tip" about what number to play. For example, he will say something lioke why you not betting on number 8? Or something like that. I think the idea is that if the dealer says some number and if he actually hits it you will tip him more.

Idiots that believe the dealer has any power over the roulette wheel are the same idiots that look at the history board of the numbers that hit and base their bets on that.

How many times have all of us been playing BJ or any other table game and the dealer "advises" the players what they should do? This is the dumbest fucking arrest Ive ever heard of

[JimmyG_415]

This is retarded. Fifty percent of the time I am at ant roulette table in Vegas the dealer gives me some "tip" about what number to play. For example, he will say something lioke why you not betting on number 8? Or something like that. I think the idea is that if the dealer says some number and if he actually hits it you will tip him more.

Idiots that believe the dealer has any power over the roulette wheel are the same idiots that look at the history board of the numbers that hit and base their bets on that.

That is exactly it.

I brought this up w/some BJ dealers, and they all said they knew someone that could do it.
I still think it is BS, (I've decided I can't talk gambling w/BJ dealers, they are all "know-it-all's)
I'm just throwing out #'s, not sure if these #'s are right, so if they aren't, first ridicule & troll me, then correct them.

Out of 100 spins if you took 4 every time you would hit 2.7 times (1 out of 37)
to break even you'd have to hit 2.86 times per 100 spins (35 to 1 odds)
So to break even you'd just have to hit an extra .16 per 100 rolls or 1 every 625 rolls (100/.16).

So if you got a guy that could hit 1 extra out of 100, you'd be at like 129 % EV.
That is the 2.7 times you'd normally hit it, + 1 extra time per 100=3.7
times 35 (35 to 1 odds) 3.7*35 = 129 %.

[herbertstemple]

Sounds like he was trying to make the game a little more fun, maybe get a bigger tip. This is harmless.