So of the 6 difficult or cooler hands:
AA vs AQ on AQx board: I checked turn, should have bet it.
QT vs KJhh on KhJhx9dAh board: I checked river, still think I made right play, but it's close.
K7 vs ?? on K764 2 club board: I think I was against 66 and made the right fold. Don't regret this one.
AQ vs ?? on 332Q board: I raised flop, bet turn, folded to check raise. I should have flatted flop, checked turn, called river.
Q8 vs AdKh on 8d3d8hTd2s board: I raised flop, called turn, folded to river shove. I should have shipped on turn.
AT vs 55 on AT59 board: I put the guy in to turn check-raise. Don't regret this one, as I didn't have enough chips to fold.
Tough day, amirite?
Imagine all of these tough hands in less than 10 hours (we're talking live, where it moves slowly and you don't get many hands in).
BTW I think my laydowns with the K7 and the AQ probably set up this guy with the AK to bluff me, as I might have looked like a middle-aged-white-guy-folder to him, and today he was actually right about that.
I think the key to this hand is that your opponent is already a confirmed spaz.. is he really looking to get involved with a random flush draw on a paired board, often time everyone misses those kinds of flops so they're good to attack. Seems like he might think it was a decent spot to bluff.
I understand the diamond on the turn freaking you out a little and I'm fine the the just call the turn. Btw, what range do you think he has you on at this point?? I'm certain it includes A LOT of hands that are much worse than 8x.
I think your hand is too strong to fold on a blank river. I could see him semi-bluff the turn with the Ad and planning to spaz most rivers, because that's what the spaz's do..
I really think he's going to turn over a flush or tens full like 95% of the time when you call the river here. He just ended up having that other 5% spazz range this time. Like I said before it's almost impossible for him to have a bluff here, like he has to have the exact hand he had (after making an atrocious bet/call on the flop first) to be bluffing here and then decide to take this line. Now that I think about it, maybe shipping turn is slightly better, you def protect your hand against 1 card diamond hands and get some value esp if he is going to snap with AAd or KKd. And at least you won't wind up in the spot you did on the river. Still though, this hand was wp by you IMO.
To be honest, I played way better last year than I did this year in the Main.
Last year I was really a boss with seeing when I was behind and getting out of the way, along with not letting people push me off the better hand. (I made a tough AK high for a lot of chips call last year, and was correct, for example.)
I think that's why I flipped out so badly when I went overboard with that AK so close to the money, after I had really played everything so well for almost 3 full days.
Today I just kept making one bad decision after another (albeit on tough hands) and it did me in.
I actually think last year's good performance (even though I didn't cash) somehow hurt me this year, as I didn't have my "A" game and wasn't nearly as good at putting opponents on hands as I was in 2013. The same intuition that almost got me to a cash last year with mediocre cards wasn't present today, and that's why I am out of the event.
Not 95% of the time, and I didn't think tens because with those he's not worried about me hitting the flush on the river, so he lets me hang myself.
A8 and a small/medium flush were my concern. I was really thinking he had AA or AT with the Ad. I should have gone with my gut. I have to admit that 2012's memory was hurting me here. I busted by making a dumb hero call with AA (really should have laid down the river, even with short chips) and I felt like a massive retard getting so far and busting by making a bad all-in call. I think that's the second-worst way to bust. The only worse feeling is spewing off your chips like a moron and getting called to bust (which this guy was seconds away from having happen, btw).
Anyway I was thinking it would be 2012 all over again, and he would show me A8 or a flush, and I would walk away like a dummy who threw away 40k with Q8 trips with a flush on the board. So I'm thinking, "Instead of being this dummy, I should give myself a chance to get my money in a better spot."
Not a big fan of gambling it up too much in the early stages of the Main (given the slow structure), but given the overaggression this guy showed, I should have just shipped the Q8 on him, hoped not to see a flush, and known that I would have outs if he had anything but TT.
Wow, I just realized I had 10 outs against a flush, not 7. One 8, three 3s, three 10s, three Qs. I don't know why that didn't come to mind when he bet into me. So I wasn't even crushed big time against any hand but TT or T8 (unlikely).
Had 10 outs against a flush, 7 outs against 33, and 10 outs to win or chop against A8 or K8. Yes I was also risking getting sucked out on even if ahead, but still I should have shoved the turn. That was the right spot to gamble, especially since TT and T8 were the only awful things to see, and I didn't think either were likely.
Fuck. Funny how I took several minutes to decide what to do but never calculated my outs. Guess it was the stress of the moment screwing with my head.
Upon analyzing this after the fact, I'm convinced a ship on turn (especially given the player) was 100% correct, but failing to do that made the river call a lot harder, and at that point calling is a different story.
But when I called the turn I should have committed to call the river without a diamond hitting, which was the purpose of only calling, and then I chickened out.
Also it was a lot easier to ship on this guy because I only had 39k going in which, while a very playable stack at that point, wasn't big by any means, and I wasn't risking shooting off a big stack against another big stack.
So like, if we both had 90k in this spot and this hand plays out, I think it's a lot more reasonable and probably correct to call turn/fold river.
But here the upside is winning a big pot and sitting on 75k, and the downside is busting, but I think there's enough of a chance I'm winning (and getting the call with the naked Ad) that it was totally the right move to do it, and hope to either fade the diamond or catch up with likely 10 outs if behind.
If I counted all 10 outs at the time, I would have shipped the turn. I made that call too quickly. I took my time before folding river (which I agree, SpewArtist, wasn't a bad decision), but I didn't think enough on the turn. I should have stopped, counted my outs, gone with my gut about him having Ad and otherwise behind, and shipped.
Tournaments are depressing. Glad I don't have any more until next year. I'm burnt out already.
Start talking to the guy......say, "I dont know what to do......Sir, whats the fastest you have ever gotten knocked out of the main event?"
"Uh, this is my first time"
Look him up and down and see if he looks like some fucking rube whose home game buddies sent him there with their money.
Shove all in, he has AK or KQ and has no sniff of how powerful his hand is.
If the guy looks experienced, he has bottom set and you're going home.
6,683 players entered the 2014 WSOP main event.
They would have had over 7,000 players but the WTP $500 Re-Buy at Aria really fucked them up.
$10 million guarantee for 1st place, if there were no guarantee it would pay about $8.5 million instead.
That extra $1.5 million should come out of Caesars pocket but it won't.
Caesars plans to fuck the players and take it out of the total prize pool.
So if you cash in the main event, in 300th place, which last year paid $32k, this year it would be $25k instead.
What are the odds that the 2014 WSOP main event winner will another douchebag under 25 years old?
Its hard for me to comment on this one because I would have played it so differently. Its such a good spot to 4bet pre. If for some reason I called his 3 bet pre it would be with the intent of calling down because I thought he will spaz. I dont see why you would raise the flop there ever. Sure you fold out his 2 unders equity but you take his barrelling air away which is the point of calling his 3bet pre instead of 4 betting.
As played im never folding.
I wish you wouldnt have posted the results from this hand because I would have looked like a genius. As im reading Im knowing he never has a flush there unless hes good. 99% of all players there would c/r the turn with a flush. Leading is the better option but no one knows that. It screamed Ad.
Why ship? Just call. You take away his river bluffs by shipping, and hes never folding any queen so either he leads river or check calls with the same hands that would call your ship. Id be more apped to ship if I didnt have the ace because alot of his bluffs will contains aces then you fold out his equity with an ace plus take away his river bluffs if an ace hits if u have kq,qj, but no reason to shove aq just flat. If your worried about a random king hitting or running into a set otr then you probably shouldnt be playing anyways.
Never ever check. You have to much limti holdem in your game your always looking to c/r or raise but nlhe is about value betting and this spot is the absolute nuts to value bet him to death. If you do c/r your hand is face up and he can fold a ton of hands that he would still call a bet with. The only real hand he calls a c/r with is a fl draw so if it hits then u b/f and if it misses u c/c or c/r river.
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