Blatantly stolen from 2+2, but how can you top the title,
isnt the acting like you pay your bills w/poker $$$ played out by now?
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...again-1150344/
here if you want to cut to the chase and see her on NY ink
http://tlc.discovery.com/videos/ny-i...er-hottie.html
at least we see her in her panties
I wrote this a while back on the topic:
And this follow-up more recently:A while back a wrote a fairly scathing article regarding an article where Beth Shak hyped herself as a “Professional Poker Player” implying that her Amelda Marcos-esque shoe collection was the fruits of her labors at the poker tables. Well it seems that Shak is once again masquerading as a poker pro (with a side order of Tiffany Michelle doing the same) on a reality TV show, this time on A&E’s New York Ink -Michelle will be appearing on Bravo’s Worst Cooks in America show according to pokernews.com’s Nightly Turbo column.
As I argued in my previous column on the matter Shak is far from a self-sustaining poker pro (notice I said POKER PLAYERS in the title), and even without knowing the specifics of Tiffany Michelle’s contract with UB I can conclude that her winnings of less than $10,000 over the past three years isn’t paying her way in life.
Both Michelle and Shak have run a con-game; not so much on the poker world, but on sponsors and the press. Citing what they are famous for -Shak almost winning a WSOP bracelet and Michelle being the last woman standing in the 2008 WSOP Main Event-both have managed to land some modeling deals, Reality TV appearances, and appearance fees for clubs and salons and such.
But the fact of the matter remains neither of these ladies are Poker Pros! Playing in, and making a deep run, or even winning a poker tournament, does not make you a professional poker player. What these two are doing is analogous to a player who spent one season on an NFL Practice Squad calling himself an NFL player five years down the road, or a basketball player who procured a 10-day contract and never playing a single minute in a game and then referring to himself as a former NBA’er.
In fact, I would argue that both of the above examples are far truer than what Shak and Michelle claim, since they are technically correct. If you want to get an idea of what types of “fearsome” reputations Michelle and Shak have in the poker world, ask any “real” poker pro the following question: Would you rather have Beth Shak or Tiffany Michelle sitting at your table or a complete unknown? My guess is that by an overwhelming margin they are going to choose the so-called Poker Pros!
So how have they turned a single run of good luck into a career away from the tables? Well, first off they are fairly attractive, which never hurts in any endeavor where a camera is involved, and basically any female in a Poker Room will turn a head, so a fairly attractive woman will suddenly think she is Marilyn Monroe after stepping into a Poker Room. So any type of sponsor is quick to snatch-up ANY female player who has even the most modest of poker results.
Michelle was all too aware of this during her 2008 WSOP run where she jumped for joy when she realized she was the last woman standing; knowing this meant TV time and exposure and a potential contract in the sponsorship-happy era.
Secondly, instead of doing the respectable thing and calling themselves poker personalities or hosts– like Tatjiana Pasalic, Lacey Jones, and others-Shak and Michelle seemingly have no issue with carrying on the charade that they make their living at a poker table. While this is intellectually dishonest, they are simply carrying on a narrative that was handed to them -thank you ESPN, UB Poker, and Full Tilt Poker.
So, when you see Shak playing a rigged hand of poker for a free tattoo, or Michelle’s crooked chef’s hat, remember that THIS is how they earn a living, by being quasi-celebrities, not by playing poker.
From 2002 to 2006 I made my money playing poker, online and live, and even during those years I was loathe to call myself a professional poker player. I think that the word “Professional” should be reserved for a distinct group of players in the poker world, and not applied to every mid-stakes grinder or luckbox who has managed a decent tournament score: For these people the title “Poker Player” is plenty sufficient.
However, there is a new group of people in the poker world, who manage to make a living via poker but not through playing, that are neither “Professional Poker Players” nor “Poker Players”; I call these people “Pokertainers” or “Poker Celebrities.” The perfect examples of this group are Beth Shak, Tiffany Michelle, and Jerry Yang. Mind you, I have nothing against Jerry Yang! While they are not earning their income from playing poker, some of these players like to list "Professional Poker Player" on their resume.
Basically I think earning the title of professional poker player (or even poker player) is like being on a survival show: If I were to drop you into the Commerce Casino (or any other large card-room) with an adequate bankroll for $2/$5 No Limit or $20/$40 Limit, and no other revenue streams whatsoever, would you survive 6-months? For the above players I mentioned it’s pretty obvious they would struggle –maybe they could beat these limits (maybe not) but they would never survive relying solely on poker winnings.
You’re probably thinking that there are A LOT of players that would have a hard time surviving in the new world of poker –players who have been living off sponsorship dollars for years—but the fact of the matter is, these players were once among the best, and for good reason, so cutting them off from their other revenue streams may be just what they need to rededicate themselves to the game.
So that is the scenario: Can you make enough money playing only poker to take care of your bills and living expenses? Forget about going to Hollywood premieres and having cameos in movies, the crux of the argument is simply, can you live off of your poker winnings. Some people can, and these are what I call “Poker Players”; other players not only survive, but thrive, and these are the people that the title of “Professional Poker Player” should be reserved for.
An NFL Linebacker deserves the title of Pro Football Player, but does a practice squad player? How about some guy toiling away in the Arena League, should he also be called a Professional Football Player? After all he makes his living from Football, but there is a clear distinction we draw between the two. In my opinion this same distinction needs to be drawn between poker players and the true “Professionals” in the game.
Making the final table of an EPT tournament shouldn’t earn you the title of Professional Poker Player (even if it won you six-figures), that titled should take some years to earn. In the meantime take comfort with simply calling yourself a “Poker Player”, I did.
I write things about poker at my Poker Blog and elsewhere on the Internets
also 2plus2 posters are such insufferable faggots
classy woman. and oh yeah
Originally Posted by Suicide King
bunch of fuckin nerds they are getting hard ons over mason mallmutt's posts
I have no clue why she hasnt been found stabbed by 20 pairs of Louboutins by now.
If you pretend to be gay, you might have a shot with her. She's a huge fag hag.
Oh, and the fact that she finished 2nd in a NL WSOP event is pretty much proof positive that NL tournaments = joke.
I am sure they are both in the red, but I am sure Shak and Williams are way less in the red from "net poker winnings" than a lot of people we consider "name pros" that rely on outside income, sponsorship deals, stakes, and hustling.
ie: TJ Cloutier, Layne Flack, Gus Hansen, Daniel Negreanu (considering his well documented hemorrhaging in big live cash games it would be interesting to see DN's net "poker" results. I wouldn't be surprised if they were in the red)
Classic, well said.
What is the Jerry Yang reference to?
Has he been doing the reality circuit?
She is a whore. End of story.
anybody that can tilt Phil Hellmut especially at a FT is A OK
I just don't get people say she is "smoking" "hot". You could go to any regional shopping mall and throw a dart and hit a women far better looking than this beast of a women.
plol where you at on this??? MMT crew
Jery's a great guy, and to be entirely honest I just wanted to throw in a male so it didn't look like I was being sexist singling out ladies. I thought of Jerry because he's not a poker player but uses his WSOP victory (and rightly so) to promote his restaurant, book, and such. So he's not poker pro but he's always around poker tournamnets!Classic, well said.
What is the Jerry Yang reference to?
Has he been doing the reality circuit?
I write things about poker at my Poker Blog and elsewhere on the Internets
She's attractive -- at least physically -- especially for the fact that she's 45.
Obviously if you're going to compare her to women 20 years younger, she's nothing special, but I will give her props for keeping herself looking nice, even if she uses insane divorce money to do it.
Her personality, however, is a whole different issue. She would be an absolutely terrible wife, and I got to witness this firsthand when she was drunk and embarrassing former husband Dan in the WSOP hallway.
And yes, Beth Shak has a really bad drinking problem.
Beth's hot though she's starting to show her age IMHO. Lacey Jones/Full Tilt/Skillbet/Bodog is a legit poker player who happens to be hot though. Man, I miss online poker where I could simultaneously play and stare at hot girls, no offense to dudes at the casinos but y'all don't provide much to the aesthetics.
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