As we wrap this season up, another thanks goes out to Daly for turning me on to this podcast and all his other work. huge fan
I haven't listened yet. I'll save it for a whisky and cigar tonight. I always look forward to it and will savor one of the last shows.
http://beatingthebook.libsyn.com/web...tegory/podcast
Whatever our differences in other threads, we can all appreciate a man who makes us money. Daly is GODOriginally Posted by Sanlmar
HILLARY WON
If one were inclined to bet the Atlanta Money line you can get Ryan +300 to win regular season and SB MVP at bovada.
Honestly I think it's the same bet.
There's a rumor floating around internet radio land that Todd Is going to have the worlds best tout on his next radio show..... details are being worked out.
I should probably ask for permission before posting this but I want to congratulate Hongkonger for making it into the cut by Bovada club. Well done sir. We have been kicking the shit out of these assholes for over two months now and they finally smartened up.Whatever our differences in other threads, we can all appreciate a man who makes us money. Daly is GOD
I think the one out today is a man's guide to Vegas. The one last year was a must listen. Practical tips to negotiate with clubs, strippers, whores, etc.
800+ superbowl props at William Hill:
http://edgevegas.com/wp-content/uplo...T_01262017.pdf
If anyone is near a William hill kiosk with a bag of money and wants to get rich give me a PM.
When you were out there did you ever download & register an app?If anyone is near a William hill kiosk with a bag of money and wants to get rich give me a PM.
NopeWhen you were out there did you ever download & register an app?
Cash and carry.... no pictures or players cards.
Lakers are -13.5 at Utah tonight, just flew there after losing in Portland last night, and are playing terribly. Can easily see them lose by 20 or more. Worth a small wager to increase the bankroll for next week.
just saw this , one book, but interesting:
Las Vegas sportsbook CG Technology took a "mid-six-figure" bet on the Atlanta Falcons +3 on Thursday. The Super Bowl line remains New England-3, but the vig to bet on the Patriots has been cut from -115 to -105. CG Technology vice president Jason Simbal says there is currently about 1.6 times as much money on the Falcons as there is on New England.
On Thursday night, the sports betting mecca that is the Westgate Las Vegas Superbook released its massive Super Bowl proposition bet packet – yes, packet; it’s way more than a sheet and probably more akin to a booklet – and there were plenty of bettors lined up from the get-go. They were dropping the maximum $2,000 wagers like pennies into a fountain.
Covers talks about where the Super Bowl prop bet action is with Jay Kornegay, vice president of race and sports for the Westgate Las Vegas Superbook; oddsmaker Ed Salmons at the Superbook; and Mike Jerome, lines manager for offshore sportsbook TopBet.eu.
New England Patriots vs. Atlanta Falcons – Open: +3; Move: +3 (even); Move: +3 (-105); Move: +3 (-110)
Other than adjustments to the price, the Super Bowl line hasn’t moved this week at the Superbook, sticking firm at Patriots -3. That might not be the case with the proposition offerings, with so many options – Kornegay posted a record of more than 400 – that bettors just might be able to find some advantageous lines.
It’s a long way from when prop bets first came into Super Bowl betting lore.
“When I first entered the industry back in ’87, ’88, there were only maybe about 10-12, maybe 20 propositions for the Super bowl,” Kornegay said. “Now we’re looking at around 400. It really took off in the early ‘90s, mid-‘90s, as the games were really boring, we expanded the menu and it really took off. Now it’s just a huge part of the experience of being in Las Vegas.”
Sharp money was the order of the night on Thursday, with bettors aiming to find props where they might have an early edge.
“The people betting last night are professionals,” Salmons said, noting a general pattern to their wagers. “Ninety-five percent of the bets were on ‘No’ and ‘Under.’ We fully expected that.”
Salmons pointed specifically to betters liking “No” on Pats tight end Martellus Bennett to score a touchdown and the same with teammate Julian Edelman.
“We will write a ton of ‘Yes’ next weekend” on both those props, Salmons said.
That’s because public bettors, on the other hand, love betting on “Yes” and “Over” with many of the props. And year-to-year, they’ll hit some of the standard ones that offer potentially nice little payouts at plus-money.
“We usually have the same propositions that are the most popular with the general public,” Kornegay said. “The one that I believe is the most popular and gets the most tickets on it, it’s a very generic one and it’s been around for a very long time, is the player to score the first touchdown. That always seems to get a lot of attention from the general public. And then we just go into the overtime proposition and the safety.”
Atlanta running back Devonta Freeman is the favorite to score the first TD, at 7/1, followed by teammate Julio Jones and New England’s LeGarette Blount and Edelman at 8/1. The prop of overtime opened Yes +700/No -1100, and the prop on a safety at any point in the game opened Yes +600/No -900.
The safety went on a three-year streak recently, in the New York Giants’ win over New England in 2011-12, Baltimore’s win over San Francisco in 2012-13, and Seattle’s win over Denver in 2013-14 – the latter coming on the first play from scrimmage, making it a huge hit among those who took “safety” as the game’s first score.
“The safety hasn’t really been a friend of the bookmakers in recent years,” Kornegay said. “We had three safeties in a row. To think of the odds of that happening, just incredible.”
Meanwhile, TopBet.eu has a little more than 100 prop offerings, with one of the more active plays coming on whether Patriots quarterback Tom Brady will throw for more than 300 yards.
“We opened that prop ‘Yes’ -300 and got sharp action on ‘No’ +200, so we moved to the current number of Yes -240/No +180,” Jerome said.
As is the case at all books, both in Vegas and offshore, fun is being had with some of these prop bets, and even sharp customers are interested in the more unique offerings. At TopBet.eu, that includes whether President Trump will tweet three or more times during the Super Bowl, from kickoff to final play.
“We opened ‘Yes’ -150 and got sharp action there and at ‘Yes’ -180, so we moved to the current number of -220,” Jerome said.
Patrick Everson is a Las Vegas-based senior writer for Covers. Follow him on Twitter: @Covers_Vegas.
SUPERBOOK SUPER BOWL PROPS
Super Bowl prop bets at Superbook
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Lots of wisdom in the above bolded.
Kickers gonna kick
https://twitter.com/twt/status/825338382960193537
From 76 yards which would obviously be crazy to try in a game unless it's for a tie/win at the end or the end of the first half.
Living proof that deep down I hate myself I'm taking the under 80.5 in the pro bowl.
I guess i hate myself too.
"Druff would suck his own dick if it were long enough"- Brandon "drexel" Gerson
"ann coulter literally has more common sense than pfa."-Sonatine
"Real grinders supports poker fraud"- Ray Davis
"DRILLED HER GOOD"- HONGKONGER
I guess i hate myself too.
We agree. 78% of bets are taking the OVER, yet the #ProBowl total has fallen from 82.5 to 81. #ReverseLineMovement
sportsinsights.com/free
You can't tell me this shit ain't rigged on some level. 80% of the $$ is on the over and the AFC throws up a goal line stand? If a fucking pro bowl? Are you serious?
Pretty interesting read....
http://www.thefixisin.net/theproof.html
The ticket you purchase to a sporting event reflects this notion of sports being simply entertainment. The "Spygate" lawsuit proves this. In this lawsuit, a New York Jets fan sued the New England Patriots for illegally (by NFL rules) videotaping their opponents' coaching signals. The lawsuit asked for the Jets ticket holders' money back in 10 years worth of games -- the duration of the Patriots "cheating" via this videotaping.
While you can read the U.S. Appeals Court's complete ruling in this case here, Senior Judge Robert E. Cowen's main conclusion was this: "At best, he [Carl Mayer, the plaintive] possessed nothing more than a contractual right to a seat from which to watch an NFL game between the Jets and the Patriots, and this right was clearly honored....Mayer possessed either a license or, at best, a contractual right to enter Giants Stadium and to have a seat from which to watch a professional football game. In the clear language of the ticket stub, ‘[t]his ticket only grants entry into the stadium and a spectator seat for the specified NFL game.’ Mayer actually was allowed to enter the stadium and witnessed the ‘specified NFL game[s]’ between the Jets and Patriots. He thereby suffered no cognizable injury to a legally protected right or interest."
Cowen concluded, "We do not condone the conduct on the part of the Patriots and the team’s head coach, and we likewise refrain from assessing whether the NFL’s sanctions (and its alleged destruction of the videotapes themselves) were otherwise appropriate. We further recognize that professional football, like other professional sports, is a multi-billion dollar business. In turn, ticket-holders and other fans may have legitimate issues with the manner in which they are treated….Significantly, our ruling also does not leave Mayer and other ticket-holders without any recourse. Instead, fans could speak out against the Patriots, their coach, and the NFL itself. In fact, they could even go so far as to refuse to purchase tickets or NFL-related merchandise….However, the one thing they cannot do is bring a legal action in a court of law. [emphasis in original].”
If that is the best protection a ticket provides a fan, do you honestly believe watching a game on television grants one more legal protection?
4.
There is no law preventing a league from fixing its own contest. The two closest federal laws on the books are these:
The "Quiz Show" law which was passed after it was revealed that television networks had been fixing the outcome of nationally televised game shows including Twenty-One and the $64,000 Challenge. The law reads: "(a) Influencing, prearranging, or predetermining outcome
It shall be unlawful for any person, with intent to deceive the listening or viewing public—
(1) To supply to any contestant in a purportedly bona fide contest of intellectual knowledge or intellectual skill any special and secret assistance whereby the outcome of such contest will be in whole or in part prearranged or predetermined.
(2) By means of persuasion, bribery, intimidation, or otherwise, to induce or cause any contestant in a purportedly bona fide contest of intellectual knowledge or intellectual skill to refrain in any manner from using or displaying his knowledge or skill in such contest, whereby the outcome thereof will be in whole or in part prearranged or predetermined.
(3) To engage in any artifice or scheme for the purpose of prearranging or predetermining in whole or in part the outcome of a purportedly bona fide contest of intellectual knowledge, intellectual skill, or chance.
(4) To produce or participate in the production for broadcasting of, to broadcast or participate in the broadcasting of, to offer to a licensee for broadcasting, or to sponsor, any radio program, knowing or having reasonable ground for believing that, in connection with a purportedly bona fide contest of intellectual knowledge, intellectual skill, or chance constituting any part of such program, any person has done or is going to do any act or thing referred to in paragraph (1), (2), or (3) of this subsection.
(5) To conspire with any other person or persons to do any act or thing prohibited by paragraph (1), (2), (3), or (4) of this subsection, if one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of such conspiracy."
Note the repeated use of the word "intellectual" -- not physical. Therefore, this law does not apply to sports.
The Sports Bribery Act of 1964 which was passed to protect the "integrity" of sports from mafia and gambling interests. It reads: "Whoever carries into effect, attempts to carry into effect, or conspires with any other person to carry into effect any scheme in commerce to influence, in any way, by bribery any sporting contest, with knowledge that the purpose of such scheme is to influence by bribery that contest, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both."
The key word in this law being "bribery." If a league instructs one of its employees -- be it an official, coach or athlete -- to influence and/or manipulate an outcome in a certain manner, such action does not break this law.
No one has been arrested for violating the Sports Bribery Act in relation to a professional sporting event -- ever.
"Druff would suck his own dick if it were long enough"- Brandon "drexel" Gerson
"ann coulter literally has more common sense than pfa."-Sonatine
"Real grinders supports poker fraud"- Ray Davis
"DRILLED HER GOOD"- HONGKONGER
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