Ultimate Poker dealt two nines of spades on a flop?

[Dan Druff]

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@vegasmuneca This may have to do with what system you are running on your computer. We appreciate you reporting & have passed on to our team

Ultimate Poker
@vegasmuneca Know for future reference you can always see the community cards by viewing the dealer chat in the chat box.

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The above is an interesting response, because Ultimate Poker is NOT directly denying that there were two nines of spades dealt. Instead, they sent her back an ambiguous message blaming it on her system, presumably trying to say that perhaps her system displayed the cards incorrectly.

You would think that, given such a serious allegation, they would make a more emphatic statement complete with verifiable hand history. (If this has been done, please post it here.)

Inside source #4 reports that various legal teams with an interest to see Ultimate Poker cease operating (such as competitors) are strategizing to see if they can get Ultimate Poker's license revoked or reviewed based upon this matter.

Keep in mind that it has not yet been confirmed that this wasn't either a photoshop or a computer display issue, but it does look very suspicious to me -- almost like UP threw up buggy software just to be first in the market, beating Caesars by just a few weeks.

[Dan Druff]

This might be much ado about nothing.

Another user on 2+2 swears that it has happened to him before, and it's just a graphics glitch.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=2806

Graphics glitch, I've had this happen a few times already. Turn on dealer chat to see the correct flop.

Here's a weird nobody cares bug: When using the 4-colored deck, it shows your folded hand in 2-colors.

[Dan Druff]

A graphics glitch like that is also terrible because it can confuse you into folding if you don't catch it immediately.

So say your hand is 33 and the display shows a flop of A99, but both nines are the same card. Let's say the REAL flop is A93. If you miss that, and think the flop is actually A99, you're going to be laying down a monster instead of perhaps winning a big pot.

On the reverse side, it can make you think you flopped trips when in reality you just have one pair.

[sah_24]

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Ultimate Poker responded as follows:

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@vegasmuneca This may have to do with what system you are running on your computer. We appreciate you reporting & have passed on to our team

Ultimate Poker
@vegasmuneca Know for future reference you can always see the community cards by viewing the dealer chat in the chat box.

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The above is an interesting response, because Ultimate Poker is NOT directly denying that there were two nines of spades dealt. Instead, they sent her back an ambiguous message blaming it on her system, presumably trying to say that perhaps her system displayed the cards incorrectly.

You would think that, given such a serious allegation, they would make a more emphatic statement complete with verifiable hand history. (If this has been done, please post it here.)

Inside source #4 reports that various legal teams with an interest to see Ultimate Poker cease operating (such as competitors) are strategizing to see if they can get Ultimate Poker's license revoked or reviewed based upon this matter.

Keep in mind that it has not yet been confirmed that this wasn't either a photoshop or a computer display issue, but it does look very suspicious to me -- almost like UP threw up buggy software just to be first in the market, beating Caesars by just a few weeks.

Why are people still supporting this POS site , just mind boggling how greedy/ignorant the poker community is . At this point we kinda deserve everything we get because we continue to allow the same shit to happen and no one does anything about it . Why would it change ? Maybe WSOP.com will be a little less of a complete fail site !

[Steve-O]

I used to see this all the time on the merge (by all the time i mean a handful of times). Basically some of the cards from the previous hand stay on the screen.

[Dan Druff]

I used to see this all the time on the merge (by all the time i mean a handful of times). Basically some of the cards from the previous hand stay on the screen.

I never saw it happen on Merge (though I believe you).

But a regulated Nevada site is very different from Merge, and should definitely never have bugs like this just because they want to be first-to-market.

[BeerAndPoker]

I think it's clear Ultimate Poker rushed this software out just to be first legal online poker site in the US industry for lifetime bragging rights despite having a very rough launch not really catering to a majority of what players would like to see.

This isn't the Commerce so stop with the short stack no limit games when the industry standard is 100bbs and sometimes much more then that. It's almost that they want to hold back their growth since they aren't ready for that in regards to the software and other things but by doing that are embarrassing themselves.

Had Ultimate Poker really launched properly they could have got a great head start over the sites who will be launching soon but that likely won't be the case.

You can bet other casinos are watching and taking note of all the issues Ultimate Poker has had so they don't have them when they launch.

[Dan Druff]

Good article on Ultimate Poker:

http://calvinayre.com/2013/05/15/pok...ign=calvinayre

[Steve-O]

I used to see this all the time on the merge (by all the time i mean a handful of times). Basically some of the cards from the previous hand stay on the screen.

I never saw it happen on Merge (though I believe you).

But a regulated Nevada site is very different from Merge, and should definitely never have bugs like this just because they want to be first-to-market.

Their software was definitely rushed, but I think it may be partly the fault of the players system. This was only a problem for me on my crappy laptop AND would only happen if I had windows media player running too.

I wrote this the other day: http://www.titan-poker-bonus-code.co...-poker-market/

Ultimate Poker was so adamant on being first in the market that the company was willing to rollout a stripped-down version of their software simply to beat their competitors to the punch. The reviews of the Ultimate Poker software have not been kind, with people likening the software to early online poker rooms from 2001. One poster on PokerForums.org had this t say about the software:

Big thumbs down…

No scrolling for bet sizing on the middle turn ball on the mouse

Can’t input bet sizing in an effective manner with the numerical pad

Also, they give you a random hourly text input (those puzzling “discolored/unreadable” codes that you see at credit cards, websites, etc. when you are sign up for an account)…not so great when you are the middle of hands on multiple tables

According to Todd Witteles’ website, PokerFraudAlert.com, he has heard that Caesars Entertainment is planning on launching their WSOP.com Nevada site in the coming week. The WSOP.com website will feature 888’s software, and unlike Ultimate Poker which developed its own software, the WSOP.com should be ready to go from day-one...

The question is, did Ultimate Poker do itself a favor by being first, or will they be remembered for their “not ready for primetime” debut, that not only featured inferior software and a lack of verification, but also the use of Ultimate Bet-connected Iovation to run checks on players, while other sites like WSOP.com unroll a near-perfect product right out of the gate? Get the detailed review on Titan Poker here.

[elevengrover]

This seems like God's way of sticking his thumb in Phil "Two Black Nines" Hellmuth's eye (hand he won the WSOP ME with). You can't make this stuff up. NioNio is Swedish for Nine Nine so Russ apparently still in your computer and stealing your manies.

[lordc]

Lol, they Just opened a room why do bash about it over here? Let there be some time, maybe something changes. Like 'BeerAndPoker' said. But I think not. Due to their long history over the times, this shows exactly that online Poker is not legal in any ways. They still try to find out a new filthy way to scam people over not getting caught. Magic needs to come back!

[gut]

I used to see this all the time on the merge (by all the time i mean a handful of times). Basically some of the cards from the previous hand stay on the screen.

I never saw it happen on Merge (though I believe you).

But a regulated Nevada site is very different from Merge, and should definitely never have bugs like this just because they want to be first-to-market.

Ha. Welcome to the PC video game industry, where many developers now have the attitude of "fuck it, lets release and let the community modders fix it."

[3ozBacardi]

This seems like God's way of sticking his thumb in Phil "Two Black Nines" Hellmuth's eye (hand he won the WSOP ME with). You can't make this stuff up. NioNio is Swedish for Nine Nine so Russ apparently still in your computer and stealing your manies.

When PH was pushed a pot with the losing hand on UB he said he saw losing hands drag the pot on UB a hundred times; sometimes it went his way, sometimes not. Hmmmmmm.