PROJEKT:SEP **SCAM** (Rolled: A Jasep Saga)

[donkdowndonedied]

I guess it could be 6TP, but the fact of the matter is it is very difficult to find out a car someone is driving if it isn't in their name. I mean, you could find who lives with him and correlate their cars and make a guess. Sounds like total bullshit. This was coming, he is going to have an excuse regardless. Hopefully he actually sends the money back. The idea that he is actually scared to go cash in chips is just too much though. Why would he not cash out the chips every night anyway. Whats with that ? Hes playing like 5/10 stud right? I guess thats a red chip game... but he isn't filling out tax paperwork when he cashes out. Just more nonsense. Like someone is sitting outside his house waiting for him.

I could feel bad if he rolls people for their $5k, but I've been rolled by more than one BAP myself. Guys always tell people what they want to hear. yap yap I'll grind out this profitable game and put in this many hours. They really know how to sell it. (The ones that rolled) If he wasn't put to a stop now, he'd just roll other people down the line.

[SetofKs]

If septic tank really received this threat, and they know about a car that he drove yesterday that isn't his, then they are obviously in his home town. He seems to be into some shady shit, so if hes telling the truth it sounds more like he pissed off the wrong guy in his home town.

[tony bagadonuts]

How is it that Johnny has ran multiple other stakes this past year but this is the first public one they I am aware of?
Multiple past investors have not been happy. Criminal fraud and identity theft charges? Yeah, sounds like a great investment, a guy who I would blindly trust to keep his word. A broke beggar is almost always honest.......

I don't know you new guy (unless you're a dupe and I do), therefore I really don't give two shits what you think about anything. Either post under your real account, or maybe get a few more posts under your belt before you go after an established member here.

As an aside, when you cut through the pejoratives and blatant racisim, azzy brings up legit points that are worthy of debate.

Bump for 2outer being 2outed as Jsearles.

[simpdog]

I don't know you new guy (unless you're a dupe and I do), therefore I really don't give two shits what you think about anything. Either post under your real account, or maybe get a few more posts under your belt before you go after an established member here.

As an aside, when you cut through the pejoratives and blatant racisim, azzy brings up legit points that are worthy of debate.

Bump for 2outer being 2outed as Jsearles.

Bump for re-reading your earlier post and seeing that you don't give two shits about 2outer. That's damn funny, was it intentional or do you use that phrase often enough that it wasn't?

[Rollo Tomasi]

I don't know you new guy (unless you're a dupe and I do), therefore I really don't give two shits what you think about anything. Either post under your real account, or maybe get a few more posts under your belt before you go after an established member here.

As an aside, when you cut through the pejoratives and blatant racisim, azzy brings up legit points that are worthy of debate.

Bump for 2outer being 2outed as Jsearles.

[tony bagadonuts]

Bump for 2outer being 2outed as Jsearles.

Bump for re-reading your earlier post and seeing that you don't give two shits about 2outer. That's damn funny, was it intentional or do you use that phrase often enough that it wasn't?

I was wondering if anyone would catch that. The answer is both.

[Rollo Tomasi]

[Pooh]

Is Jasep a scammer?

No.

Is he a shady hustler who bends the rules to make shit happen?

Yes.

Does he have like 7 or 8 agendas at once?

You betcha.

Did he start posting on DonkDown as part of a well defined plan to siphon people to his own project, ultimately for monetary gain?

I think so.

Is that "wrong"?

Nope, just shady.

Did China and Drexel part ways with VPR because they dont want to be associated with someone who is almost guaranteed to fuck up and go to jail when one of his schemes falls short and someone else ends up paying for it?

Yeah, I think so.

Are a lot of otherwise intelligent people defending Jasep in this thread because they simply hate the people holding up cold hard facts about his integrity?

Signs point to yes.

Scammers dont usually start out saying "I wanna scam". Some do, and occasionally do so with such bravado and charisma that the community embraces them for it. Most however are just shady fuckups who are "trying to make a dollar out of 15 cent" then fuck it all up and end up owing the wrong people 15 cents.

The turning point for me in this thread was, without question, the iPad story.

Telling someone "its in the mail" instead of "I extended some credit to a sponsor and they fucked me, I need you to be patient because Im a dude with a family to feed and paying you $420 because someone made bad faith commitments to me is a real serious blow to my situation" is a red flag that cant be ignored. The difference between those two answers is night and day in terms of personal integrity.

Anal's good work in this thread 100% validates my original impression of Jasep; hes a fundamentally nice guy who is probably suffering from a deficit of risk aversion. Some people get rich off that. Every great fortune has a crime behind it. But to pull that off you either need Lex Luther caliber cunning or absolutely terrific luck, and so far I see indication of neither in Jasep.

And its going to cost him eventually, much much more than what is happening in this thread.

Subtract drugs, murder, and rape from the prison system and you are left with hundreds of thousands of Jaseps, acting hard and wringing their hands and plotting their next big hustle, toxic with fury over the injustice that put them behind bars, tying a big pink ribbon with their childrens name on it around their gratuitous larcenies, past present and future.

I have absolutely no ill will towards Jasep, but I will say to anyone listening, including him, that his judgement is nightmarishly bad, and hes coming off like a half way crook who is too lazy to do it right and too greedy to not do it.

Whether or not his cash BAP pays off for the investors, (btw how country fucking stupid do you have to be to invest in stud swings, seriously), I dont think things are going to turn out well for Jasep as long as he continues to try to take care of business through these "projects". The portrait being painted here is someone with a distinctly adolescent mind set getting in way over his head in an effort to avoid needing an alarm clock. That's not a good look, and its already becoming a lonely one.

You're one of my least favorite posters here but I pretty much agree with your assessment. No offence, you're one of the few who is better on radio than here. I know you care.

Love,

Your Pooh.

[JUSTIFIEDhomicide]

6-15 I'm trying to be patient

6-15 Like I said, I will look in to it tomorrow, I bought the thing, it was $425.00, it was a completely free prize for doing nothing, no spam emails, no entry fees, no donations, no nothing. I appreciate that it has taken longer than you expected but honestly it is just 100% free on top of whatever was won for free in the free rolls that we put on, if it took 6 months I don't think it would be out of line. I will get the tracking numbers from my girl tomorrow and find out what is going on and if worst comes to worst I will order you another on Amazon and you can ship one back if both show up, i don't anticipate a problem but you never know.

I appreciate where your coming from but cryptic responses aren't going to help the cause... It's a free Ipad dude.

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This is just like when Jasep says he's leaving and reminds us of all the amazing things he's done for this community, and given us.

Makes me wonder where the money went for that fundraiser he ran went to....

[Pooh]

I meant to check this out a few days ago, as I knew 2outer was a dupe, but I just remembered this morning to do it.

Turns out it's jsearles.

I forgot this two bit fag even existed.

[JUSTIFIEDhomicide]

This doesnt look good. Theres a 0.0% chance you would ship him a 2nd one and hope some random guy will ship 1 back. If you did send this post to Detroit it has to at least call out your credibility. It doesnt make you a scammer and I really dont think you are, but it does show some dishonesty, and being a cash stake going on 100% honesty I'd recommend ending the stake imo. Not that my opinion means anything.

He had a sponsor flake on him and had to dig $420 out of HIS OWN FUCKING POCKET. So what if it took a month and a half? he got paid didn't he? Shit fucking happens, deal with it.

God this place is going straight down the shithole.

What an abortion of a thread.

I think you're missing the point. It's not about how long it took. It's about the fact that he lied.

[donk_tilt7.0Alpha]

Ole septic tank needs to face reality and get a god damn job. Go make your daughter proud - grinding low stakes poker and filling up people's ipods for cash aint gonna cut it ked.

[Corrigan]

Being a trusted/frequent member of a forum shouldn't give anyone any points towards not being shady/scammer. In fact it's the opposite. That's how scammers operate - get themselves in an online community, be nice to everyone/throw out a few freerolls, then collect the $ (see fminc, PeterDC)

[abrown83]

Sonatine Godding it Up

You're one of my least favorite posters here but I pretty much agree with your assessment. No offence, you're one of the few who is better on radio than here. I know you care.

Love,

Your Pooh.

This is like saying you hate Tiger Woods golf game, or hating on Peyton Manning's QB skills.

Sonatine is not only one of the best posters on this filthy family of sites, he is one of the funniest and smartest posters on any forum I read.

It has been a huge loss that he has decided to not post here on a regular basis.

I feel like you are butt hurt because he probably wrote you a gay love story one time.

[Corrigan]

You're one of my least favorite posters here but I pretty much agree with your assessment. No offence, you're one of the few who is better on radio than here. I know you care.

Love,

Your Pooh.

This is like saying you hate Tiger Woods golf game, or hating on Peyton Manning's QB skills.

Sonatine is not only one of the best posters on this filthy family of sites, he is one of the funniest and smartest posters on any forum I read.

It has been a huge loss that he has decided to not post here on a regular basis.

I feel like you are butt hurt because he probably wrote you a gay love story one time.

[Pooh]

You're one of my least favorite posters here but I pretty much agree with your assessment. No offence, you're one of the few who is better on radio than here. I know you care.

Love,

Your Pooh.

This is like saying you hate Tiger Woods golf game, or hating on Peyton Manning's QB skills.

Sonatine is not only one of the best posters on this filthy family of sites, he is one of the funniest and smartest posters on any forum I read.

It has been a huge loss that he has decided to not post here on a regular basis.

I feel like you are butt hurt because he probably wrote you a gay love story one time.

Negative. Never had any association with him at anytime anywhere. Just think he sucks as a poster. To each his own. He is hilarious though. I cum everytime I see one of his ponys. End sarcasm.

[BUBBLES]

I would like to hear Druffs opinion on this.

[The_PHA]

I thought the idea of an elongated forum stake was to update the thread?

LOL @ "Investors". You know how stupid that sounds? Just call it BAPs

OP, you started with $5,000 of other people's money. You want this thread to go away, simply state where you are at today.

Best I can see is you were up $3 a few weeks ago. UPDATE, and not some weekend sickness.

4 Bet seems to be correct. You are evasive.

Actually he has updated us at his site vegaspokerradio.com. Also, we have his number and 3 other ways of contacting him at any time if we choose to. He is being very honest and things are taking place behind the scenes and at his website. He doesn't owe anyone here anything except the people who invested and they are very well informed. He has a right not to answer any of you who have not made any investment…

I understand everyone's arguments and at one point felt like I could be in trouble. After speaking to Jasep and going over my two issues I feel confident I'm not being cheated or scammed. He has assured me that he is not taking any of the top, and honestly I believe him. I even said it would be okay if he wanted to buy lunch / gas / drinks etc. He made it a point that he was not and again I believe him; I may be a push over for doing so, but whatever. If any of his investors had an issue, they were given the choice to walk away a few days ago with the money they put in plus a 6ish% return. 4Bet is a poor man’s cashcabbie

This is the leak. There was nothing about discretionary spending in the BAP. As Azzclown has said, its the whole skimming deal. I mean, if he were up $500 one night and decided to play one more hand and won/lost, in theory it could go out of the winnings or go in his pocket.

Just like dinner. If he is losing he skips dinner. If he wins one night it's Lobster.

Nothing really wrong with the OP when you take it in consideration. He free rolled and that is that.

[chinamaniac]

[Anal_Hershiser]