what NBH said
what NBH said
Its not really a gift if you have to win a tourney series to get it. It is then called a prize, which in this case was something the user earned.Originally Posted by 408Mike
Unfortunately it's risky business sometimes to offer a cool contest with free prizes and such because every so often the lucky winner lacks the capacity for logical rational thought and completely forgets that the prize he is receiving is free and thus a gift from the giver to him. I would never bitch at anyone giving me a gift regardless if it took them a day or a decade to get it to me, only an asshole would complain about the service offered by his friend in the process of delivering a gift directly to his front door and I gotta admit, you are one special asshole "detroit."
???? Don't think the issue here is if he got it and when he got it?He had a sponsor flake on him and had to dig $420 out of HIS OWN FUCKING POCKET. So what if it took a month and a half? he got paid didn't he? Shit fucking happens, deal with it.
God this place is going straight down the shithole.
What an abortion of a thread.
It's how it went down. If the chat log above is the actual chat as occured, then there is a lot of Erick Lindgren type of excuses going on here. NOT saying he is a scammer obv.
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???? Don't think the issue here is if he got it and when he got it?
It's how it went down. If the chat log above is the actual chat as occured, then there is a lot of Erick Lindgren type of excuses going on here. NOT saying he is a scammer obv.
Paying the prize isn't the issue, the constant lies are. Why won't you address that part NBHUSTLER? He clearly lied multiple times about shipping it.
Listen Im a fan of Jaseps. I think the guy isnt a scammer in any way, but if he said I'll ship you another one and you can send one back is in no way the truth. Just say my sponser fucked me over give me some time and ill make this right.This doesnt look good. Theres a 0.0% chance you would ship him a 2nd one and hope some random guy will ship 1 back. If you did send this post to Detroit it has to at least call out your credibility. It doesnt make you a scammer and I really dont think you are, but it does show some dishonesty, and being a cash stake going on 100% honesty I'd recommend ending the stake imo. Not that my opinion means anything.
He had a sponsor flake on him and had to dig $420 out of HIS OWN FUCKING POCKET. So what if it took a month and a half? he got paid didn't he? Shit fucking happens, deal with it.
God this place is going straight down the shithole.
What an abortion of a thread
We have to keep in mind that maybe he didnt send that to Detroit, and maybe Detroit left some out, and maybe he was harrasing Jasep over it, and he lied to get him off his back. Im just saying unless your Cmoney your not sending another Ipad because he said he didnt get it if you know you sent it, and you damn sure aint trusting anyone that would be proud to be from Detroit to send you back 1 if they get 2.
He had a sponsor flake on him and had to dig $420 out of HIS OWN FUCKING POCKET. So what if it took a month and a half? he got paid didn't he? Shit fucking happens, deal with it.
God this place is going straight down the shithole.
What an abortion of a threadLewfather ain't gonna like this........
ummmm VPR forums completely disappeared besides on projekt:SEP thread?
I never received an ipad.
He had a sponsor flake on him and had to dig $420 out of HIS OWN FUCKING POCKET. So what if it took a month and a half? he got paid didn't he? Shit fucking happens, deal with it.
God this place is going straight down the shithole.
What an abortion of a thread
Listen Im a fan of Jaseps. I think the guy isnt a scammer in any way, but if he said I'll ship you another one and you can send one back is in no way the truth. Just say my sponser fucked me over give me some time and ill make this right.
We have to keep in mind that maybe he didnt send that to Detroit, and maybe Detroit left some out, and maybe he was harrasing Jasep over it, and he lied to get him off his back. Im just saying unless your Cmoney your not sending another Ipad because he said he didnt get it if you know you sent it, and you damn sure aint trusting anyone that would be proud to be from Detroit to send you back 1 if they get 2.
I did not leave anything out. Druff can have my password to verify all PM's are accurate.
I did not harass him over it..I only contacted him after the date's had passed on when it was promised.
"Just say my sponsor fucked me over and it's gonna take 2 or 3 months." if he had told me that on 5-12 this would not even be an issue.
This just shows how once people decide to buy in to shit like this, it goes beyond just the money and is psychological. It is understandable that anyone who has money out to jasep realizes this thread doesn't help them, but the people defending him are just as bad as the people saying he is a scammer. Anyone who still thinks he is above peeling off money from his wins and not reporting them is blessed to have gone through life so long and still be so naive. You really don't get to be like that unless you've been surrounded by successful and honest people or maybe you're still young. The poker world is far different. The people who stick with the game tend to be borderline sociopaths and lie over a drop. I mean even if I knew he took money off the top as fact, I'm not sure I'd even label him as a 'scammer'. It would just be something I'd expect.
If he was broke before the stake, it is almost guaranteed he is digging into that $5k to pay for gas, food, etc. What was his liferoll before the stake?
even though i have given jasep a lot of shit in the past, i still dont think he is a scammer.
he just didnt handle certain matters properly then told a few white lies that came back back to bite him in the ass
I believe what Detroit has posted. He doesn't post much but he seems to be a stand up guy. The reason the sponsor backed out on delivering the Ipad was because of the whole 4bet slow pay deal if I remember correctly. I also do not believe that Detroit should just be happy he received anything because it was free. The guy earned it fair and square and the prize should have been sent immediately. To say its been sent and then never receiving is faggot. This whole disaster is faggot.
Jesep, you should have listened to my advice in this thread. I'm not saying you're guilty of anything but I will sit back and watch your ass continued to be bloodied.
Would love to hear why Brandon and China flaked out of VPR. Maybe it was just Brandon being Brandon.
toughbutfair
:emoticon fail
>implying i backed him
i'm not saying he's innocent or not, i'm saying the bullshit you guys have "brought to light" is irrelevant, misleading, and only causing issues.
speaking of trolls, hey i forgot to welcome you back limitles.
I thought the idea of public stakes was to advertise wins and losses every day, like China.
All I see here is a bunch of smoke and mirrors, alas cheap second hand office furniture sold, without any details.
Spray a few hundred pics Jasep and you will get a few weeks, imo.
I skimmed through this thread.
First, Hey Azzclown, you still want to take up resume writing services? LOL.
For cliffnotes, this is the dirtface I gave Azzclown with regards to this fucking leech. RESUME WRITING. LOL.
Watch and learn. I am the light friends. Never doubt me. Ever
more like johnny septic tank
So, when you say you have been supporting yourself with poker for the last 12 years, and that "large amounts of cash were passing through your hands." When did you find the time to get to your job at Verizon? And why wouldn't that be something you could put on your resume? Why is it a "blank sheet?" When your potential backers thought you were playing poker and gaining experience, weren't you really just a fucking phone salesmen?
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/john-sepulveda/54/884/298
*The following has since been deleted in the last few hours. Clearly the actions of a man who has nothing to hide*
www.EliteWebDesignRI.com
July 2012 to July 2012
Team Members: John Sepulveda
When you go to: http://www.elitewebdesignri.com/
We offer a 2 day service that will have your MP3 Player, iPhone, iPad, Android Device, Tablet or other media device loaded with up to 8 gigs of music, television shows, movies and more for just $49.99 with pick up and deliver in Rhode Island and do not charge for the media. Take advantage of our enormous library of media. If we do not have it, we will get it!
So basically for $50 he'll take your device and steal a bunch of pirated media for you! What a standup guy! ROFL. He's basically a petty thief. Downloading a few songs for personal enjoyment is one thing. Selling stolen media and making $ on it is quite different.
This has since been taken down. Why would he take it down, unless he didn't want people to see it? Other users saw it before it was taken down. They can speak up if they choose too.
wow, good find azz just more shit that makes you go...
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