Originally Posted by
sonatine
Is Jasep a scammer?
No.
Is he a shady hustler who bends the rules to make shit happen?
Yes.
Does he have like 7 or 8 agendas at once?
You betcha.
Did he start posting on DonkDown as part of a well defined plan to siphon people to his own project, ultimately for monetary gain?
I think so.
Is that "wrong"?
Nope, just shady.
Did China and Drexel part ways with VPR because they dont want to be associated with someone who is almost guaranteed to fuck up and go to jail when one of his schemes falls short and someone else ends up paying for it?
Yeah, I think so.
Are a lot of otherwise intelligent people defending Jasep in this thread because they simply hate the people holding up cold hard facts about his integrity?
Signs point to yes.
Scammers dont usually start out saying "I wanna scam". Some do, and occasionally do so with such bravado and charisma that the community embraces them for it. Most however are just shady fuckups who are "trying to make a dollar out of 15 cent" then fuck it all up and end up owing the wrong people 15 cents.
The turning point for me in this thread was, without question, the iPad story.
Telling someone "its in the mail" instead of "I extended some credit to a sponsor and they fucked me, I need you to be patient because Im a dude with a family to feed and paying you $420 because someone made bad faith commitments to me is a real serious blow to my situation" is a red flag that cant be ignored. The difference between those two answers is night and day in terms of personal integrity.
Anal's good work in this thread 100% validates my original impression of Jasep; hes a fundamentally nice guy who is probably suffering from a deficit of risk aversion. Some people get rich off that. Every great fortune has a crime behind it. But to pull that off you either need Lex Luther caliber cunning or absolutely terrific luck, and so far I see indication of neither in Jasep.
And its going to cost him eventually, much much more than what is happening in this thread.
Subtract drugs, murder, and rape from the prison system and you are left with hundreds of thousands of Jaseps, acting hard and wringing their hands and plotting their next big hustle, toxic with fury over the injustice that put them behind bars, tying a big pink ribbon with their childrens name on it around their gratuitous larcenies, past present and future.
I have absolutely no ill will towards Jasep, but I will say to anyone listening, including him, that his judgement is nightmarishly bad, and hes coming off like a half way crook who is too lazy to do it right and too greedy to not do it.
Whether or not his cash BAP pays off for the investors, (btw how country fucking stupid do you have to be to invest in stud swings, seriously), I dont think things are going to turn out well for Jasep as long as he continues to try to take care of business through these "projects". The portrait being painted here is someone with a distinctly adolescent mind set getting in way over his head in an effort to avoid needing an alarm clock. That's not a good look, and its already becoming a lonely one.