Interesting murder case in Florida just had another arrest

[Dan Druff]

Hadn't heard of this one til now... perhaps because I'm on the other side of the country.

In 2014, lawyer Dan Markel was murdered. The actual gunmen have been located and convicted already. They were gang affiliated, members of the Latin Kings.

But this wasn't a robbery or revenge killing. They were hired.

It turned out that this was a complex case, where the brother of Markel's ex-wife hired these gang members. All of it was arranged by a woman who worked in the brother's dental practice, and also dated the brother at some point.

The oft-criticized FBI actually did something clever on this case. In 2016, an undercover agent posed as a brother of one of the gunmen, and left an ominous note saying "$5,000" with Markel's ex-wife's family members while they were at dinner, implying an extortion attempt. This got the family members talking, all while being recorded by the FBI, and this resulted in various arrests and convictions.

5 people have been arrested so far -- the two killers, the ex-wife's dentist brother, the girlfriend/employee of the ex-wife's brother, and now the ex-wife's mother. The ex-wife is believed by many to also have been in on the killing, but she has not yet been arrested. Her mother was just arrested when trying to leave the country.

Great article from the Tallahassee Democrat newspaper describing the entire thing: https://www.tallahassee.com/story/ne...y/71487731007/

Update from CNN regarding the arrest of the mother: https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/08/us/do...est/index.html


The motive in this whole thing?

The ex-wife wanted to move the kids to south Florida, near the rest of her family, but was prohibited by the court from doing this. If Markel were dead, she would get automatic full custody and could move. Seriously, that was the motive.

Bet this dude never guessed in a million years that his cute wife was going to have him killed:

[Texter]

Amor de Rey?

[1marley1]

Was Karen Read framed by cops for killing her cop boyfriend in Canton MA?

[JimmyG_415]

I've been following this, 99% it was engineered by the MIL, The one they arrested at the airport w/a one way ticket to Vietnam.
Its one of those families that looks like the pillars of the community, but up close are dysfunctional, af, w/the domineering mother.
Like she essentially picked this guy for her daughter on J-Date , then was an overbearing, divisive, MIL. & During the divorce was saying things like dress the kids up like NAZI's, convert then to Christianity, & keep them in Miami, all just to get under his skin. (BTW, she disowned her oldest son for not marrying a jew).
Her nickname for the victim was "Jibbers". & when he knew she was bad mouthing him, he filed a motion so that the kids couldn't be alone w/her.
That was the last straw.

The BIL (per his alimony was making 3m a yr) was sentenced just this AM, 2 life sentences, consecutively.
I don't think they have enough to convict the ex-wife or FIL(who was also at the airport w/a 1 way tix), for knowing beforehand.
Maybe perjury or covering up after the fact, but the MIL is dead to rights. Esp if she goes w/the same lame defense as her son. That he didn't hire the hitmen, but was extorted by them.
.....................................The jury took less than 3 hours to convict him.

'Forever taken': Charlie Adelson sentenced to life in jail as Dan Markel's father reflects
https://www.tallahassee.com/story/ne...r/71891899007/
Charlie Adelson, the wealthy Fort Lauderdale periodontist who financed and planned the 2014 hit on his former brother-in-law, Dan Markel, was sentenced to life in prison for the heinous murder.

The motive in this whole thing?

The ex-wife wanted to move the kids to south Florida, near the rest of her family, but was prohibited by the court from doing this. If Markel were dead, she would get automatic full custody and could move. Seriously, that was the motive.

[Dan Druff]

Funny you mention J-Date.

I was briefly on there in the early 2000s, and it was absolutely awful.

Was never a big fan of dating sites, but I decided to give this one a try because I hadn't dated that many Jewish girls in my life, and I thought it might be nice to date a fellow Jew instead of having to be concerned about the clashing religion thing (even though I'm not very religious).

But the selection of girls was awful. I'm not talking about looks. From that standpoint, there were plenty of attractive and semi-attractive ones.

However, the standard 30-ish woman on early 2000s J-Date was neurotic, arrogant, obnoxious, and felt that J-Date was going to be the magic cure-all to their troubled dating life. It was amazing how many of them thought they'd meet Mr. Perfect right off the bat, and any guy who fell even slightly short of that wasn't worth their time.

I'm not saying this out of bitterness. I didn't even ask anyone out from there. In my brief time on J-Date, I didn't find one girl I liked enough, personality-wise, to ask out on a first date. Mind you, I met a ton of women online in those days, and I never had this problem before. From other places online, I'd think really highly of a lot of the girls I'd talk to, and it would translate into successful dates -- at least in the short term. But not J-Date.

There was one I somewhat liked and considered asking out, but it fell apart when I asked her a simple question:

"Have you met any guys in person off J-Date yet?"

She responded. "Yeah, I've met 14."

14!! Was this girl promiscuous? No, it was the opposite. I asked how many of those 14 first dates became a second date.

"Zero," she said.

0/14???

I asked why all 14 dates were failures.

"I don't know, I just wasn't clicking with them. You can't force chemistry."

These weren't just 14 randoms. These were 14 guys she liked enough to meet in person, and all 14 of them fell short of her expectations. Keep in mind, this girl wasn't beautiful or extraordinary. She was basically your average 30-year-old Jewish chick.

I responded back, "Well, not to put myself down, but if you met 14 guys for first dates and didn't like any of them, I don't think I'm going to be lucky #15 and break that trend."

She then lectured me about how she shouldn't have to settle, etc, etc.

I politely ended the call, and deleted my J-Date account.

[tgull]

Funny you mention J-Date.

I was briefly on there in the early 2000s, and it was absolutely awful.

Was never a big fan of dating sites, but I decided to give this one a try because I hadn't dated that many Jewish girls in my life, and I thought it might be nice to date a fellow Jew instead of having to be concerned about the clashing religion thing (even though I'm not very religious).

But the selection of girls was awful. I'm not talking about looks. From that standpoint, there were plenty of attractive and semi-attractive ones.

However, the standard 30-ish woman on early 2000s J-Date was neurotic, arrogant, obnoxious, and felt that J-Date was going to be the magic cure-all to their troubled dating life. It was amazing how many of them thought they'd meet Mr. Perfect right off the bat, and any guy who fell even slightly short of that wasn't worth their time.

I'm not saying this out of bitterness. I didn't even ask anyone out from there. In my brief time on J-Date, I didn't find one girl I liked enough, personality-wise, to ask out on a first date. Mind you, I met a ton of women online in those days, and I never had this problem before. From other places online, I'd think really highly of a lot of the girls I'd talk to, and it would translate into successful dates -- at least in the short term. But not J-Date.

There was one I somewhat liked and considered asking out, but it fell apart when I asked her a simple question:

"Have you met any guys in person off J-Date yet?"

She responded. "Yeah, I've met 14."

14!! Was this girl promiscuous? No, it was the opposite. I asked how many of those 14 first dates became a second date.

"Zero," she said.

0/14???

I asked why all 14 dates were failures.

"I don't know, I just wasn't clicking with them. You can't force chemistry."

These weren't just 14 randoms. These were 14 guys she liked enough to meet in person, and all 14 of them fell short of her expectations. Keep in mind, this girl wasn't beautiful or extraordinary. She was basically your average 30-year-old Jewish chick.

I responded back, "Well, not to put myself down, but if you met 14 guys for first dates and didn't like any of them, I don't think I'm going to be lucky #15 and break that trend."

She then lectured me about how she shouldn't have to settle, etc, etc.

I politely ended the call, and deleted my J-Date account.

All dating sites are the worst. I frequented them up until 2011 when I met my wife, which ironically was not on a dating website. I was a regular on all the sites, and it was the easiest sexual encounters one could imagine. The issue is a good deal of the women were never anyone you would want to settle down with. But they had a different perspective. I'll give you two examples:

1) There was one gal I got to know pretty well and she stayed the night like 4 times. I was not sure if we were going to be an item, I was like 28 at the time and still in the party mode. But she was attractive and I was considering something long term. Then I was at a random bar eating chicken wings one night, and a pretty intimidating guy sat down next to me, and said in a threatening tone, stay away from my fiance'. I was like WTF. Called her that night and she said yeah that is him she broke off the engagement before she met me. Anyway, I just ended it, that fucking guy looked psychotic and I was not going to risk getting blown away in some dark parking lot. Funny thing was she was back on Match like three days after I ended it

2) Second bad experience was a stalking incident. I am not going to get into an essay, but the chick showed up to my work. Like my office. My boss who was my good friend told her the second time she showed up he would call the police for trespassing if she showed up again. I also reminded her in a subsequent email I knew where she worked and asked if she wanted me to contact her HR Department and put her in contact with my boss. Did not hear from her again

I also tried to escape one chick and told her I had the flu and could not go out with her that weekend. Yeah guess what, heard the door bell ring and did not answer. Opened up the door and there was a bowl of chicken soup and a sandwich. How creepy is that? Thankfully she just went away.

[garrett]

JUST saw this on the news here West Palm Beach never heard of before

[splitthis]

More typical is this case highlighting Biden’s America.