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    I know and I agree....but it would be nice to get him on video buying in and never playing and walking to the cage....or at least a witness to that affect....again I knew he was a fake from his first video....this cm is like a bad tv show that I am watching....I don't want to see people ripped off for sure....but first and foremost it's a bad tv show that's fun to watch....just waiting for the series finally to come to a end
    Nick,
    If CM had one Iota of legitimacy to him or his systems he would have already stepped forward. There is nothing that CM wants more than to show that he is not a fraud and that he has winning strategies. There have been numerous occasions for him to prove this. KD has given him many challenges for real CASH. All things that he can easily do to prove he is legit. Things like show his money is real, prove he doesn't have numerous fake burner Youtube accounts, show bank balances. He didn't do any of it. Dan Druff invited him on his podcast to give his side of his story. Dan's Co-host even offered CM an advertising spot on a refrigerator in a major sitcom if the members voted him to be legit (If I recall correctly this had a value of over 5 figures!) CM wouldn't do it. Jeff Dime asked him to log into his MLIFE account and show his win/loss statement. This would absolutely silence the "Haters" Did CM do it? Absolutely not! Why didn't he do it? Because his strategies don't work! As I stated before, he not only loses he is losing big. Everything about his channel is a scam.

    People have been tried in a court of law on less evidence than has been present against CM, and have been found guilty. There is a legal term called "The Totality of the Circumstances". This is where a decision is made based on all the available facts. A person can look at each fact about CM independently and be pursued either way as to guilt or innocents. But there is no sane person on planet earth that can look at all the available facts and come to the conclusion that CM is not a FRAUD. The believers that are left are either brain dead, young kids, or foreigners (they do not believe scam artist exist in the United States. They wouldnt believe that in a country with so much opportunity someone would commit such fraudulent acts).

    Nick, if I were to ask you what would be absolute proof in your eyes that would convince you that CM is a fraud. Even if that proof was provided, the brain dead followers would still say that is not good enough. Fortunately the brain dead followers do not have any money. CM had a lot of people fall for his Bullshit prior to him being exposed. He is now on his last leg. How on earth he thinks all of a sudden he will revitalize this bullshit scam is beyond me. His last ditch effort in the last two weeks has been the Skype consults, and having people prepay for his Bullshit 1 on 1 coachings. In the next two weeks I predict he will come out with something else out of desperation, probably another private Facebook group with a minimal monthly fee. He will have to lower the price drastically to get people on board.

    He will never show his players accounts win/loss. Fortunately there are hundreds of people that work in Nevada casinos that can access this information. I cant wait for the day his win/loss statements are compared side by side with the bullshit results he states in his videos.
    I don't need any proof I know he's a scam....I think you missed my point ....which was it would be fun to have some video of him pulling his scam....the same it was so nice to have the video of him losing his ass at that casino.....that's all I was saying....then from here KD gets defensive with any comment....again I've always known CM is full of shit and also I like KD's videos and I am a fan of his videos as well

     
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    Nick,
    If CM had one Iota of legitimacy to him or his systems he would have already stepped forward. There is nothing that CM wants more than to show that he is not a fraud and that he has winning strategies. There have been numerous occasions for him to prove this. KD has given him many challenges for real CASH. All things that he can easily do to prove he is legit. Things like show his money is real, prove he doesn't have numerous fake burner Youtube accounts, show bank balances. He didn't do any of it. Dan Druff invited him on his podcast to give his side of his story. Dan's Co-host even offered CM an advertising spot on a refrigerator in a major sitcom if the members voted him to be legit (If I recall correctly this had a value of over 5 figures!) CM wouldn't do it. Jeff Dime asked him to log into his MLIFE account and show his win/loss statement. This would absolutely silence the "Haters" Did CM do it? Absolutely not! Why didn't he do it? Because his strategies don't work! As I stated before, he not only loses he is losing big. Everything about his channel is a scam.

    People have been tried in a court of law on less evidence than has been present against CM, and have been found guilty. There is a legal term called "The Totality of the Circumstances". This is where a decision is made based on all the available facts. A person can look at each fact about CM independently and be pursued either way as to guilt or innocents. But there is no sane person on planet earth that can look at all the available facts and come to the conclusion that CM is not a FRAUD. The believers that are left are either brain dead, young kids, or foreigners (they do not believe scam artist exist in the United States. They wouldnt believe that in a country with so much opportunity someone would commit such fraudulent acts).

    Nick, if I were to ask you what would be absolute proof in your eyes that would convince you that CM is a fraud. Even if that proof was provided, the brain dead followers would still say that is not good enough. Fortunately the brain dead followers do not have any money. CM had a lot of people fall for his Bullshit prior to him being exposed. He is now on his last leg. How on earth he thinks all of a sudden he will revitalize this bullshit scam is beyond me. His last ditch effort in the last two weeks has been the Skype consults, and having people prepay for his Bullshit 1 on 1 coachings. In the next two weeks I predict he will come out with something else out of desperation, probably another private Facebook group with a minimal monthly fee. He will have to lower the price drastically to get people on board.

    He will never show his players accounts win/loss. Fortunately there are hundreds of people that work in Nevada casinos that can access this information. I cant wait for the day his win/loss statements are compared side by side with the bullshit results he states in his videos.
    I don't need any proof I know he's a scam....I think you missed my point ....which was it would be fun to have some video of him pulling his scam....the same it was so nice to have the video of him losing his ass at that casino.....that's all I was saying....then from here KD gets defensive with any comment....again I've always known CM is full of shit and also I like KD's videos and I am a fan of his videos as well
    I simply said if thats what you want to see, then go make ir happen. That's not defensive whatsoever, its saying dont rely on me for your entertainment. I'm dealing with info coming in about sample ripping people off and threats from his people. I dont have time to chase a little pudgy midget scammer around Vegas. He's obviously hiding where he is every day....... but heres a comment left today on my yt channel

    Joseph Baggio
    6 hours ago
    Just for your information, one of our Baccarat Players from our Club spotted Christopher Mitchell at the Bellagio over the weekend loosing 10 Thousand Dollars


    Likw I said, he's going broke and the demeanor and video content last month proves it

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    I know sometimes I feel like I'm playing peacemaker here but it sounds like maybe some of what Nick wrote was taken the wrong way and not what he intended. I want people to feel free to express themselves here and I think Nick got a little too much pushback and he was just saying he wish he knew more, which of course we all do. So Nick sorry if what you said was misconstrued. Your opinions are welcome here. It's all good.

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    YOUTUBE BACCARAT SCAMMER CHRISTOPHER MITCHELL CAN’T BE A PROFESSIONAL GAMBLER!! LET’S BREAK IT DOWN!


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffDime View Post
    I know sometimes I feel like I'm playing peacemaker here but it sounds like maybe some of what Nick wrote was taken the wrong way and not what he intended. I want people to feel free to express themselves here and I think Nick got a little too much pushback and he was just saying he wish he knew more, which of course we all do. So Nick sorry if what you said was misconstrued. Your opinions are welcome here. It's all good.

    Thanks Jeff

     
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    Nick,
    If CM had one Iota of legitimacy to him or his systems he would have already stepped forward. There is nothing that CM wants more than to show that he is not a fraud and that he has winning strategies. There have been numerous occasions for him to prove this. KD has given him many challenges for real CASH. All things that he can easily do to prove he is legit. Things like show his money is real, prove he doesn't have numerous fake burner Youtube accounts, show bank balances. He didn't do any of it. Dan Druff invited him on his podcast to give his side of his story. Dan's Co-host even offered CM an advertising spot on a refrigerator in a major sitcom if the members voted him to be legit (If I recall correctly this had a value of over 5 figures!) CM wouldn't do it. Jeff Dime asked him to log into his MLIFE account and show his win/loss statement. This would absolutely silence the "Haters" Did CM do it? Absolutely not! Why didn't he do it? Because his strategies don't work! As I stated before, he not only loses he is losing big. Everything about his channel is a scam.

    People have been tried in a court of law on less evidence than has been present against CM, and have been found guilty. There is a legal term called "The Totality of the Circumstances". This is where a decision is made based on all the available facts. A person can look at each fact about CM independently and be pursued either way as to guilt or innocents. But there is no sane person on planet earth that can look at all the available facts and come to the conclusion that CM is not a FRAUD. The believers that are left are either brain dead, young kids, or foreigners (they do not believe scam artist exist in the United States. They wouldnt believe that in a country with so much opportunity someone would commit such fraudulent acts).

    Nick, if I were to ask you what would be absolute proof in your eyes that would convince you that CM is a fraud. Even if that proof was provided, the brain dead followers would still say that is not good enough. Fortunately the brain dead followers do not have any money. CM had a lot of people fall for his Bullshit prior to him being exposed. He is now on his last leg. How on earth he thinks all of a sudden he will revitalize this bullshit scam is beyond me. His last ditch effort in the last two weeks has been the Skype consults, and having people prepay for his Bullshit 1 on 1 coachings. In the next two weeks I predict he will come out with something else out of desperation, probably another private Facebook group with a minimal monthly fee. He will have to lower the price drastically to get people on board.

    He will never show his players accounts win/loss. Fortunately there are hundreds of people that work in Nevada casinos that can access this information. I cant wait for the day his win/loss statements are compared side by side with the bullshit results he states in his videos.
    I don't need any proof I know he's a scam....I think you missed my point ....which was it would be fun to have some video of him pulling his scam....the same it was so nice to have the video of him losing his ass at that casino.....that's all I was saying....then from here KD gets defensive with any comment....again I've always known CM is full of shit and also I like KD's videos and I am a fan of his videos as well
    Nick,
    My original intent was to reply to your comments with just a couple sentences, and then just make some general comments about proof. Now that I read back at my post, that is not the way it came off. It appeared it was all directed at you. My apologies man.

     
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    This statement is pretty weird. Chrissy would “Kill” for his wife and kid. I get the “Die” for your wife and kid but who would they need you to whack out? Guys losing his fucking mind.

    The people who are telling you to stop living in a fantasy world, listen to them.

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    It's hard to believe that Christopher Mitchell really cares about anyone. Career scammers tend to be very selfish and only care about themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    It's hard to believe that Christopher Mitchell really cares about anyone. Career scammers tend to be very selfish and only care about themselves.
    I agree completely. I think he wakes up every morning to serve his own needs and desires. The comment is completely self-serving the way I read it. Imho it serves three major purposes,

    1. Using the kid and wife as a prop, which is what their true purpose is in his mind.
    2. Appeasing Stacy, who I truly believe is having her doubts/worried that it’s all coming unglued.
    3. Basically saying F U to everyone who thinks he is a joke without actually saying it.


    He certainly doesn’t care “WHY” anyone else gets out of bed. Just an excuse to write this garbage.

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    Way to go KD!! Impressive as hell. Another one bites the dust!

    Bye Bye Brunson FX!


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    I don't need any proof I know he's a scam....I think you missed my point ....which was it would be fun to have some video of him pulling his scam....the same it was so nice to have the video of him losing his ass at that casino.....that's all I was saying....then from here KD gets defensive with any comment....again I've always known CM is full of shit and also I like KD's videos and I am a fan of his videos as well
    Nick,
    My original intent was to reply to your comments with just a couple sentences, and then just make some general comments about proof. Now that I read back at my post, that is not the way it came off. It appeared it was all directed at you. My apologies man.

    No worries

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    Way to go KD!! Impressive as hell. Another one bites the dust!

    Bye Bye Brunson FX!

    Congrats KD!

    Lets Celebrate...


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    Way to go KD!! Impressive as hell. Another one bites the dust!

    Bye Bye Brunson FX!

    Congrats KD!

    Lets Celebrate...


    Shit, thanks for the great song choice for when Jason Sample's done

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    Absolutely a terrific song! I thought it would be fun to guess Day 14 before it drops on the ole YouTube. He will probably see this thread and change it up. Day 14 - Winning Flat Betting Day +$2,350.

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    Absolutely a terrific song! I thought it would be fun to guess Day 14 before it drops on the ole YouTube. He will probably see this thread and change it up. Day 14 - Winning Flat Betting Day +$2,350.

    also he's adding another lie in his last 2 titles of his videos

    " Christopher Mitchell Flat Betting Baccarat Winning Strategy Day 13- $1,370 Loss At Cosmopolitan " he's trying to make it look like all 13 days were flat betting...all garbage anyway...I think he's doing the flat betting because most people would not have the 5k BR to go with him for 1 on 1

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    So I have a few questions I'm pondering regarding the flat betting strategy...

    First off, WHY did he admit to a $1370 loss on "Day 13"? CM never admits to losses unless there are witnesses he's afraid will report otherwise. The only two we've seen have been:

    1) The $36k loss debacle in Biloxi, witnessed by multiple people

    2) The loss at Sycuan (San Diego area) where CM discovered that Kevin had some guy secretly recording him

    In both cases, CM knew he couldn't claim to have won, so those were his two "loss" videos. But now we have a third. I wonder what happened. Did he think he saw someone watching him or recording him?

    I doubt he just threw the loss in there to look real, because his flat betting strategy is "new", and he's trying to establish that it wins. It wouldn't make sense to say it lost near the very beginning. (As someone noted, Day 13 is misleading, because it was actually like day 3 or 4 of the flat betting strategy.)


    Also, the entire flat betting thing is bizarre because it ruins the entire premise of CM's scam. The Martingale thing "works" as a scam because most people walk away with a small-to-moderate win, while a lesser number of people get hit with devastating losses. Overall moneywise it's a disaster, but the number of net winners after one day probably outnumber the net losers.

    This is great for both repeat business and honest testimonials, which is what CM wants.

    Flat betting accomplishes neither. His clients will lose more than 50% of the time. The devastating losses won't be nearly as common, but the net wins will be much less common.


    My theory? CM is near busto. He can't afford to Martingale anymore. That requires a bankroll. He doesn't have one. He doesn't want to bring clients out to do Martingale, only to suffer the embarrassment that a "millionaire" like him can't afford to Martingale along with them at the $100 base bet level.

    So now he's moved to a flat betting strategy which he CAN afford to do (at least for the moment).

    Here are the signs he's low on cash:


    - Desperate attempts to raise cash quickly, such as the lol Skype coaching and prepaid sessions

    - Showing increasingly less evidence of any kind of real money he's using to gamble

    - The odd claim of "a $2,000 bankroll" for each session, where he even has been leaving a small excess (like $630) in the car in order to prevent himself from blowing it! What happened to betting big to win big?

    - The aforementioned flat betting strategy and abandoning of Martingale

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    Druff, not to mention last Sunday’s contest in which he (for the first time ever?) “tries something different” and instead of having people guess how much cash is in a stack, he has people guess how much he won that day (without even attempting it to provide any proof). It’s so obvious he’s broke.

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    In addition to his bankroll dwindling, I believe the flat betting scheme was put into place in an attempt to sell more bullshit coaching's to his followers. There is not much that I believe that comes out of CM's mouth, however CM has said "People have been asking me for a flat betting strategy". I think there may be some truth to this, even if it was only a couple of people. By developing a flat betting strategy, he probably thought he could sucker in a few additional followers that were previously on the fence with his Martingale strategy.

    Another unintentional benefit would be at the end of the coaching session his average session may have a net expected profit when considering the fee paid by client. Christopher, you can stop reading here since you don't believe in Math, and will not understand any of this, so go to the bottom of the next paragraph and I will sum it up for you

    With his martingale systems lets call his average bet $300. By strictly betting banker he is at a Negative Expected Value loss of $3.18 per hand ($300 x 1.06%HE). With the $1,000 he is paid by his client, this gives him a break even point of 314 hands played($1,000/$3.18) or 5.23 shoes. Lets say he plays the same number of hands but now FLAT bets banker only at $100/hand. His expected loss is only $333 assuming the same number of hands, and after considering the $1k paid to him for coaching, his theoretical profit is $666. Since in nearly all his coaching videos he plays 5 shoes or more, his theoretical loss is at or exceeds the amount collected for the coaching sessions when he bets Martingale. So in theory flat betting can earn him a theoretical profit when taking into account his coaching fee. Fortunately he will understand absolutely none of this, and since he is a degenerate gambler he will ultimately play until the money is gone, giving the casino every dollar regardless of how he chooses to structure his bets.
    So Christopher, you had a business model that fails (Expenses are greater than income). This combined with your gambling habit as a degenerate gambler is bringing you closer to broke.

    Eventually he will be forced to do what Jason SCAMple does and plays the clients money for them. There is nothing worse than forcing a degenerate gambler to gamble
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