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    ACR Customer Service is bad. My girlfriend emailed them 4 times about a problem and they haven't responded. She tried calling them and the message said there is no current phone support and to do live chat instead. Only problem, there is no live chat.

    Mickey Mouse tech support.
    Zero phone support is a disaster, unless they're like 2000s Pokerstars who had excellent customer service by e-mail.

    For example, Bovada e-mail support is run by monkeys, and it's impossible to get anything resolved. You need to call up to get anything done.

    If ACR lacks both live chat and phone support, that's a huge problem.

    Now I am getting to experience this frustration. I deposited $200 and have been spinning it up in the Blitz poker. Last night I decided to try to cash out $1000 via bitcoin (the same way I deposited). When I click withdraw I get an error that says "Withdraw Security Block.Current selection is not available. Please contact support". The only option given was to email them. I sent that about midnight inquiring what was going on. At 8am I got a carbon copy email saying they received it and are looking into it. Also in the email is a link to their complaint portal. Just now I decided to check that option as I havent had any other response yet. On the complaint portal i try to login with my email address and site password. I get an error saying email is unverified. So i try to click new user. It says my email already has a profile. I think maybe i need to go back into the poker client and verify my email address (you know, the one they emailed me back on and send me shitty advertisements every single day). On the poker client under my account there is a verify email button and it is greyed out. I assume this means I have done it already.

    Thoughts?

     
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    It's hilarious that we as a society think everyone can be a dr, a lawyer, an engineer. Some people are just fucking stupid. Why can't we just accept that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsearles22 View Post
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    Zero phone support is a disaster, unless they're like 2000s Pokerstars who had excellent customer service by e-mail.

    For example, Bovada e-mail support is run by monkeys, and it's impossible to get anything resolved. You need to call up to get anything done.

    If ACR lacks both live chat and phone support, that's a huge problem.

    Now I am getting to experience this frustration. I deposited $200 and have been spinning it up in the Blitz poker. Last night I decided to try to cash out $1000 via bitcoin (the same way I deposited). When I click withdraw I get an error that says "Withdraw Security Block.Current selection is not available. Please contact support". The only option given was to email them. I sent that about midnight inquiring what was going on. At 8am I got a carbon copy email saying they received it and are looking into it. Also in the email is a link to their complaint portal. Just now I decided to check that option as I havent had any other response yet. On the complaint portal i try to login with my email address and site password. I get an error saying email is unverified. So i try to click new user. It says my email already has a profile. I think maybe i need to go back into the poker client and verify my email address (you know, the one they emailed me back on and send me shitty advertisements every single day). On the poker client under my account there is a verify email button and it is greyed out. I assume this means I have done it already.

    Thoughts?
    So this is interesting. They are claiming I did $200 worth of charge backs 3 years ago. And they just confiscated the $200 from my account. One, Ive never charged back. 2, they havent sent me any communication whatsoever. I just found this in my transaction history:

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    It's hilarious that we as a society think everyone can be a dr, a lawyer, an engineer. Some people are just fucking stupid. Why can't we just accept that?

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    The Nofraud Online Poker room is available for anyone wanting a home game.

    I've set up a "Coronavirus home game" that repeats every 5 minutes if you and some mates just want a random tourney, and I'm here to set up any custom games or tables anyone needs.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsearles22 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jsearles22 View Post


    Now I am getting to experience this frustration. I deposited $200 and have been spinning it up in the Blitz poker. Last night I decided to try to cash out $1000 via bitcoin (the same way I deposited). When I click withdraw I get an error that says "Withdraw Security Block.Current selection is not available. Please contact support". The only option given was to email them. I sent that about midnight inquiring what was going on. At 8am I got a carbon copy email saying they received it and are looking into it. Also in the email is a link to their complaint portal. Just now I decided to check that option as I havent had any other response yet. On the complaint portal i try to login with my email address and site password. I get an error saying email is unverified. So i try to click new user. It says my email already has a profile. I think maybe i need to go back into the poker client and verify my email address (you know, the one they emailed me back on and send me shitty advertisements every single day). On the poker client under my account there is a verify email button and it is greyed out. I assume this means I have done it already.

    Thoughts?
    So this is interesting. They are claiming I did $200 worth of charge backs 3 years ago. And they just confiscated the $200 from my account. One, Ive never charged back. 2, they havent sent me any communication whatsoever. I just found this in my transaction history:

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    That's weird, I would never take you for the type of guy that would rip off another gambler

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsearles22 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jsearles22 View Post


    Now I am getting to experience this frustration. I deposited $200 and have been spinning it up in the Blitz poker. Last night I decided to try to cash out $1000 via bitcoin (the same way I deposited). When I click withdraw I get an error that says "Withdraw Security Block.Current selection is not available. Please contact support". The only option given was to email them. I sent that about midnight inquiring what was going on. At 8am I got a carbon copy email saying they received it and are looking into it. Also in the email is a link to their complaint portal. Just now I decided to check that option as I havent had any other response yet. On the complaint portal i try to login with my email address and site password. I get an error saying email is unverified. So i try to click new user. It says my email already has a profile. I think maybe i need to go back into the poker client and verify my email address (you know, the one they emailed me back on and send me shitty advertisements every single day). On the poker client under my account there is a verify email button and it is greyed out. I assume this means I have done it already.

    Thoughts?
    So this is interesting. They are claiming I did $200 worth of charge backs 3 years ago. And they just confiscated the $200 from my account. One, Ive never charged back. 2, they havent sent me any communication whatsoever. I just found this in my transaction history:

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    They're claiming that you charged back Black Chip Poker. Did you? That's on the same network.

    It's possible that BCP got an intentionally wrong report from their payment processor, and you've been blacklisted ever since. This happens sometimes on Bovada. Payment processor claims a chargeback occurred when it didn't, Bovada demands you send them proof that there's no chargeback, and then they reopen your account when you do.

    Many of these processors are based in China, and will pull shenanigans repeatedly to rip off players. The sites are aware of this but pretend not to be, because they don't want to cause a mass panic. They also don't want to pay people for their processors' sins, so they just deny what's happening. I sometimes get $80 or so skimmed out of my bitcoin cashout from Bovada/Ignition for the same reason. Sometimes I've gotten them to give it back to me. Usually they play dumb and claim I don't know what I'm talking about.

    Anyway, Phil Nagy (CEO of ACR) and I have talked in PM before. I'll see if I can recover the $200 and have him send it to vegas1369.

     
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    Internet poker will always be sketchy. About a week and a half ago I ran up a balance on a WPN skin and was about to withdrawal but I decided to play my balance to a set amount by playing a casino game. I loaded the game and it froze, so I closed out and refreshed the page and my balance was gone - completely gone - disappeared without me even placing a bet.

    WPN currently has no live chat so I emailed them and it took them 4 days to return my balance. Obviously when the returned amount was put back into my account I hit withdrawal - that was 6 days ago. And I'm still waiting for my withdrawal to be processed. Again, I've e-mailed them asking about my pending withdrawal and their response is "it's taking 72+ hours because of the high volume of payout requests".

    I am sure I will get paid but the whole process sparks the already feelings of how sketchy and untrustworthy any poker site will always be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jsearles22 View Post

    So this is interesting. They are claiming I did $200 worth of charge backs 3 years ago. And they just confiscated the $200 from my account. One, Ive never charged back. 2, they havent sent me any communication whatsoever. I just found this in my transaction history:

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    They're claiming that you charged back Black Chip Poker. Did you? That's on the same network.

    It's possible that BCP got an intentionally wrong report from their payment processor, and you've been blacklisted ever since. This happens sometimes on Bovada. Payment processor claims a chargeback occurred when it didn't, Bovada demands you send them proof that there's no chargeback, and then they reopen your account when you do.

    Many of these processors are based in China, and will pull shenanigans repeatedly to rip off players. The sites are aware of this but pretend not to be, because they don't want to cause a mass panic. They also don't want to pay people for their processors' sins, so they just deny what's happening. I sometimes get $80 or so skimmed out of my bitcoin cashout from Bovada/Ignition for the same reason. Sometimes I've gotten them to give it back to me. Usually they play dumb and claim I don't know what I'm talking about.

    Anyway, Phil Nagy (CEO of ACR) and I have talked in PM before. I'll see if I can recover the $200 and have him send it to vegas1369.
    Sorry, just saw this when the thread got bumped up.

    I’ve never even played on Blackchip Poker skin much less doing two $100 chargebacks. It’s patently absurd.

    I cashed out my remaining $1100 after they skimmed $200 and I won’t be back on. What stops them from just claiming the same bullshit in the future?
    It's hilarious that we as a society think everyone can be a dr, a lawyer, an engineer. Some people are just fucking stupid. Why can't we just accept that?

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    Not sure why you guys play on acr/wpn.Site sucks balls......


    Play on global.bovada or pokerbros. Safer,less bots, and less Russians

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsearles22 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    They're claiming that you charged back Black Chip Poker. Did you? That's on the same network.

    It's possible that BCP got an intentionally wrong report from their payment processor, and you've been blacklisted ever since. This happens sometimes on Bovada. Payment processor claims a chargeback occurred when it didn't, Bovada demands you send them proof that there's no chargeback, and then they reopen your account when you do.

    Many of these processors are based in China, and will pull shenanigans repeatedly to rip off players. The sites are aware of this but pretend not to be, because they don't want to cause a mass panic. They also don't want to pay people for their processors' sins, so they just deny what's happening. I sometimes get $80 or so skimmed out of my bitcoin cashout from Bovada/Ignition for the same reason. Sometimes I've gotten them to give it back to me. Usually they play dumb and claim I don't know what I'm talking about.

    Anyway, Phil Nagy (CEO of ACR) and I have talked in PM before. I'll see if I can recover the $200 and have him send it to vegas1369.
    Sorry, just saw this when the thread got bumped up.

    I’ve never even played on Blackchip Poker skin much less doing two $100 chargebacks. It’s patently absurd.

    I cashed out my remaining $1100 after they skimmed $200 and I won’t be back on. What stops them from just claiming the same bullshit in the future?
    Nothing stops them. But usually this fraud is on the processor's end, not the card room.

    So are you saying you have no Blackchip Poker accout? Are you sure?

    I suppose it's possible that some PFA troll made an account in your name and then charged back after losing. But that would be a lot of trouble.. and for what reason would they do it?

    You should demand that they give you the payment info that was supposedly charged back, and tell them that you will prove that you never did such a chargeback. Bovada will give you that if you ask, and then they place the burden of proof on you to prove that the chargeback DIDN'T happen. Which is stupid. The burden should be on the processor to prove that it did. Still, at least that's better than nothing.

    E-mail them asking for that and tell me what happens. I'm genuinely curious about this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jsearles22 View Post

    Sorry, just saw this when the thread got bumped up.

    I’ve never even played on Blackchip Poker skin much less doing two $100 chargebacks. It’s patently absurd.

    I cashed out my remaining $1100 after they skimmed $200 and I won’t be back on. What stops them from just claiming the same bullshit in the future?
    Nothing stops them. But usually this fraud is on the processor's end, not the card room.

    So are you saying you have no Blackchip Poker accout? Are you sure?

    I suppose it's possible that some PFA troll made an account in your name and then charged back after losing. But that would be a lot of trouble.. and for what reason would they do it?

    You should demand that they give you the payment info that was supposedly charged back, and tell them that you will prove that you never did such a chargeback. Bovada will give you that if you ask, and then they place the burden of proof on you to prove that the chargeback DIDN'T happen. Which is stupid. The burden should be on the processor to prove that it did. Still, at least that's better than nothing.

    E-mail them asking for that and tell me what happens. I'm genuinely curious about this.
    I’m not exactly sure I follow how I’d prove that? They give me the card number and then I reply “nope, that’s not my card”?
    It's hilarious that we as a society think everyone can be a dr, a lawyer, an engineer. Some people are just fucking stupid. Why can't we just accept that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsearles22 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    Nothing stops them. But usually this fraud is on the processor's end, not the card room.

    So are you saying you have no Blackchip Poker accout? Are you sure?

    I suppose it's possible that some PFA troll made an account in your name and then charged back after losing. But that would be a lot of trouble.. and for what reason would they do it?

    You should demand that they give you the payment info that was supposedly charged back, and tell them that you will prove that you never did such a chargeback. Bovada will give you that if you ask, and then they place the burden of proof on you to prove that the chargeback DIDN'T happen. Which is stupid. The burden should be on the processor to prove that it did. Still, at least that's better than nothing.

    E-mail them asking for that and tell me what happens. I'm genuinely curious about this.
    I’m not exactly sure I follow how I’d prove that? They give me the card number and then I reply “nope, that’s not my card”?
    Yes. You tell them that's not your card, and you never had a card like that, and you ask them to show you how that is your card or how it's the same Jason Searles as you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jsearles22 View Post

    I’m not exactly sure I follow how I’d prove that? They give me the card number and then I reply “nope, that’s not my card”?
    Yes. You tell them that's not your card, and you never had a card like that, and you ask them to show you how that is your card or how it's the same Jason Searles as you.
    On ACR I’ve only ever used Bitcoin. I do know back in the Pokerstars days you could deposit using anyone’s card; for example a relative. What I’m getting at is would the card had to have been in my name? It seems highly unlikely someone went to that extent to steal $200. I suppose it’s possible someone with the same name did it but that sounds pretty tinfoil hat. Unless they’d give me the address and other details of the account holder on file.

    Even I’m not dumb enough to deposit and play on a network using my real name and account if I had previously charged back

    Btw I did email them 10 days ago asking why my money was taken and never even got a response
    It's hilarious that we as a society think everyone can be a dr, a lawyer, an engineer. Some people are just fucking stupid. Why can't we just accept that?

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    Maybe yebsite deposited an e-check for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsearles22 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    Yes. You tell them that's not your card, and you never had a card like that, and you ask them to show you how that is your card or how it's the same Jason Searles as you.
    On ACR I’ve only ever used Bitcoin. I do know back in the Pokerstars days you could deposit using anyone’s card; for example a relative. What I’m getting at is would the card had to have been in my name? It seems highly unlikely someone went to that extent to steal $200. I suppose it’s possible someone with the same name did it but that sounds pretty tinfoil hat. Unless they’d give me the address and other details of the account holder on file.

    Even I’m not dumb enough to deposit and play on a network using my real name and account if I had previously charged back

    Btw I did email them 10 days ago asking why my money was taken and never even got a response
    I actually do believe you haven't charged back.

    It is very possible that someone here made an account in your name and with the jsearles22 screen name, charged on a stolen credit card (or maybe even their own?), dumped the chips to a buddy, and then they either charged it back or the credit card owner charged it back when the bill came.

    Then you show up on ACR as jsearles22, they see the name matches, and collect the $200 from you.

    Or it could be just straight up fraud from the processor, where they claim, "Oh yeah, this guy charged back on us 3 years ago" and ACR believes them (or is willfully ignorant).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jsearles22 View Post

    On ACR I’ve only ever used Bitcoin. I do know back in the Pokerstars days you could deposit using anyone’s card; for example a relative. What I’m getting at is would the card had to have been in my name? It seems highly unlikely someone went to that extent to steal $200. I suppose it’s possible someone with the same name did it but that sounds pretty tinfoil hat. Unless they’d give me the address and other details of the account holder on file.

    Even I’m not dumb enough to deposit and play on a network using my real name and account if I had previously charged back

    Btw I did email them 10 days ago asking why my money was taken and never even got a response
    I actually do believe you haven't charged back.

    It is very possible that someone here made an account in your name and with the jsearles22 screen name, charged on a stolen credit card (or maybe even their own?), dumped the chips to a buddy, and then they either charged it back or the credit card owner charged it back when the bill came.

    Then you show up on ACR as jsearles22, they see the name matches, and collect the $200 from you.

    Or it could be just straight up fraud from the processor, where they claim, "Oh yeah, this guy charged back on us 3 years ago" and ACR believes them (or is willfully ignorant).
    Say that’s all true. How do I prove my innocence? I’m honestly not worried about the $200 (I mean I’d like it back but not losing sleep) as much as I’d like to have a trustworthy option to play
    It's hilarious that we as a society think everyone can be a dr, a lawyer, an engineer. Some people are just fucking stupid. Why can't we just accept that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsearles22 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    I actually do believe you haven't charged back.

    It is very possible that someone here made an account in your name and with the jsearles22 screen name, charged on a stolen credit card (or maybe even their own?), dumped the chips to a buddy, and then they either charged it back or the credit card owner charged it back when the bill came.

    Then you show up on ACR as jsearles22, they see the name matches, and collect the $200 from you.

    Or it could be just straight up fraud from the processor, where they claim, "Oh yeah, this guy charged back on us 3 years ago" and ACR believes them (or is willfully ignorant).
    Say that’s all true. How do I prove my innocence? I’m honestly not worried about the $200 (I mean I’d like it back but not losing sleep) as much as I’d like to have a trustworthy option to play
    First try hammering support repeatedly, and ask for a manager to look this situation over.

    Then harass them on social media about this (and as much as I hate to say it, 2+2), if you don't get satisfaction.

    You can't call them, which sucks. That's what I like about Bovada/Ignition. You can call them and demand answers.

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    games are fucking fantastic right now

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    games are fucking fantastic right now
    That pic doesn't really show a fantastic game... it shows a cooler!

    BTW speaking of crazy hands...

    6-handed $30/$60 limit holdem earlier today, I have 77, four of us see the flop for 3 bets (I was the original raiser).

    Flop Q76 rainbow. I check-raise, ends up being capped (4 bets) three ways.

    Turn Q. Not thrilled about this obviously, since now I'm fucked by Q7 or Q6, whereas I was not before. Dude fires out, I raise, third guy thinks awhile and calls, third guy 3-bets. I think about it and figure this first guy probably ain't just firing out if he has Q6/Q7, so I 4-bet cap, third guy thinks about it again and calls, original bettor calls.

    River T. I think it's safe but who the fuck knows. QT isn't unreasonable for one of these two fuckers to have.

    First guy checks, I bet, the guy who was calling the entire time now raises. FUCK. Did this asshole just hit QT? Hard to picture a scenario where 77 is good here. Now the first guy flats. Shit. Can 77 really be good? Thought there was a very high chance I was dead, especially by the guy who just raised.

    Even considered folding but the pot was $1300 or so, and it was only $60 more to close the betting, and of course this is Bovada/Ignition where idiocy constantly happens. So I slapped myself for even thinking of folding and threw in the 60.

    Turned out cold calling (and river raising) bro had 89 and made the straight, while other dude had AQ.



    Had I actually folded there, I would have punched myself in the face.

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    Have never used ACR. I see they have player transfers. If you just grab money off someone with an ACR for $ swap, can you still withdrawal through BTC? I know most places make you take out money by deposit method? I also see they have rake back and first time bonus. I saw you can get bonus with transfer, but saw nothing about rakeback. Also Is anyone here a RB affiliate or is that through ACR?

    Thx in advance. Feel like playing tournaments to kill time and hear they have good tournament schedule

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    you can get RB on bovada. Contact china maniac.


    Imo stay far away from ACR. I can get you a good deal on pokerbros if you want. Pokerbros is amazing. The games are really good and the RB deals are v good.

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