How many Trump supporters do you think will kill themselves by injecting clorox, drano or other poisons?
How many Trump supporters do you think will kill themselves by injecting clorox, drano or other poisons?
I'm part of a union, not by choice but because I had to be part of it to work there.Originally Posted by sah_24
No they share your productivity with shitty workers which you admitted a second ago lol. Thanks for making my argument for me tho <3
They do protect shitty workers. End of story.
edit: I'm not saying unions are useless but they do protect shitty workers.
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SAH shouldn't even be acknowledged.
What is the use of arguing w/him?
He is wrong about pretty much everything,
then twists everyones words and acts like they confirm what he said,
and somehow he is smart and you are dumb.
If we do a special Corona virus Deadpool edition, I want SAH and Tgull,
F'ing couple of morons. And then Roseanne and James Woods.
No they are not the same proven by the state mandate in the article I linked. You are a stupid fucker, who thinks he is smart ...
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To be fair though you’ve turned into this sites version of Sah on the left.SAH shouldn't even be acknowledged.
What is the use of arguing w/him?
He is wrong about pretty much everything,
then twists everyones words and acts like they confirm what he said,
and somehow he is smart and you are dumb.
If we do a special Corona virus Deadpool edition, I want SAH and Tgull,
F'ing couple of morons. And then Roseanne and James Woods.
And Sah, reguardless of how you feel about his content, knows how to use the quote function properly. So he’s got that going for him.To be fair though you’ve turned into this sites version of Sah on the left.
"Trump didn't invent any of this," Jill Filipovic observed. "A Republican Party that sowed distrust in science because the reality of climate change was financially inconvenient for fossil fuel companies, and determined that conservative, patriarchal Christian morality should take precedence over public health in how we teach our kids about sex and the human body, is exactly what brought us Trump in the first place," Filipovic wrote.
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"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
That is clearly an ideologue that is only talking about the part of the picture that is convenient to his narrative. Trump didn't run on a platform of Christian morality at all and climate change denialism was a tiny part of it. Trump ran mainly as a (clearly fake) populist who was going to clean up the swamp of corporate and special interest cronyism that had clearly infected our political class on both sides of the aisle. And also leaned heavily on xenophobic nativist rhetoric.
Bernie Sanders made two serious runs at the Presidency form the left with "clean the swamp" anti corruption rhetoric. AOC has developed a strong populist following from the left with a similar message.
The clear corruption and pandering to corporations and special interests on both sides of the political aisle is just as much a part of the recipe that created Trump as Republican science denialism.
I know better than to engage certain posters here, but sometimes I feel like trying to help people see what's actually going on in healthcare. I stopped after the argument he was having in his head had nothing to do with what I posted. The ad hominem attack just confirmed what I knew in the first place.SAH shouldn't even be acknowledged.
What is the use of arguing w/him?
He is wrong about pretty much everything,
then twists everyones words and acts like they confirm what he said,
and somehow he is smart and you are dumb.
If we do a special Corona virus Deadpool edition, I want SAH and Tgull,
F'ing couple of morons. And then Roseanne and James Woods.
They do for sure but they protect the good ones.I'm part of a union, not by choice but because I had to be part of it to work there.
They do protect shitty workers. End of story.
edit: I'm not saying unions are useless but they do protect shitty workers.
I know you bust your ass and also are very skilled so don't take what im saying the wrong way.
You make a very nice living with great benefits correct? Do you think you would be making that without union protection? How about safety?
I can recall numerous times where I had someone try telling me to go do something that was very unsafe but I was in a position to tell him to go fuck himself and not do it. I was able to tell him to go fuck himself because I was protected by the union. I did lot's of high work and I was fine with that but it had to be safe. These assholes would send you up in 60mph winds if they could get away with it.
I've seen multiple men killed on the job. I've seen guy get his back broken. I've seen a guy get his finger cut off. I've seen a get his neck broken.I saw a lot of fucked up shit happen. Without union protction I would have seen a whole hell of a lot more.
I'm a good ironworker and a hard worker but I know for a fact I wouldn't have made nearly as much money as I did without the union.
And let me be clear I fucking hate the slugs(lazy fucks) but we dealt with them in house.
sorry for derailing an important thread
Without Unions we also couldn't have 4-5, 15 minute breaks and 1 hr mandatory lunch as well, or guys getting paid $20 hr to push a broomThey do for sure but they protect the good ones.
I know you bust your ass and also are very skilled so don't take what im saying the wrong way.
You make a very nice living with great benefits correct? Do you think you would be making that without union protection? How about safety?
I can recall numerous times where I had someone try telling me to go do something that was very unsafe but I was in a position to tell him to go fuck himself and not do it. I was able to tell him to go fuck himself because I was protected by the union. I did lot's of high work and I was fine with that but it had to be safe. These assholes would send you up in 60mph winds if they could get away with it.
I've seen multiple men killed on the job. I've seen guy get his back broken. I've seen a guy get his finger cut off. I've seen a get his neck broken.I saw a lot of fucked up shit happen. Without union protction I would have seen a whole hell of a lot more.
I'm a good ironworker and a hard worker but I know for a fact I wouldn't have made nearly as much money as I did without the union.
And let me be clear I fucking hate the slugs(lazy fucks) but we dealt with them in house.
sorry for derailing an important thread
Would Druff give up eating dead animals (beef, pork and chicken) to save the world?
He wouldn't do it for climate change.
Would he do it to avoid the next pandemic?
Hopefully a lot of them.
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So fucking this. Been saying it for years.
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Unions are what made the American middle class. They're a blunt instrument but sometimes you have to take the negatives with the positives.They do for sure but they protect the good ones.
I know you bust your ass and also are very skilled so don't take what im saying the wrong way.
You make a very nice living with great benefits correct? Do you think you would be making that without union protection? How about safety?
I can recall numerous times where I had someone try telling me to go do something that was very unsafe but I was in a position to tell him to go fuck himself and not do it. I was able to tell him to go fuck himself because I was protected by the union. I did lot's of high work and I was fine with that but it had to be safe. These assholes would send you up in 60mph winds if they could get away with it.
I've seen multiple men killed on the job. I've seen guy get his back broken. I've seen a guy get his finger cut off. I've seen a get his neck broken.I saw a lot of fucked up shit happen. Without union protction I would have seen a whole hell of a lot more.
I'm a good ironworker and a hard worker but I know for a fact I wouldn't have made nearly as much money as I did without the union.
And let me be clear I fucking hate the slugs(lazy fucks) but we dealt with them in house.
sorry for derailing an important thread
Hockey Guy I believe is in Canada so just because of that he'll be better off than an American doing the same work. No other industrialized country allows companies to treat workers they way they do in the USA.
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My benefit package & wages at my last job(non-union) was actually way better than this one but that was an oilpatch job so they are not really comparable. Still, my benefit package & job stability are the most important reason I took the job & I'm not saying I hate my job at all. I took well over a 50% paycut so I had a stable job close to home that had decent benefits. After working for 14 years away from home, money came 3rd in importance although I still make just decent money instead of obscene.Without Unions we also couldn't have 4-5, 15 minute breaks and 1 hr mandatory lunch as well, or guys getting paid $20 hr to push a broom
It actually amazes me how bad some worker's attitude about stuff is because this is my first union job. I've had discussions & had guys straight up admit they'd never make the money they're making with their level of education anywhere else close to home. I've also tried to impress on new hires how lucky they were to be working there but they don't listen & most of them are let go before their 3 month probation period ends because they treat the job like it's MacDonalds or something. It's pretty sad.
You're also correct about the safety thing. The union is good for insuring that & having your back.
As for OSA, I must be in a shitty union because we only get 2 paid 15 minute coffee breaks & only .5 hours for lunch, unpaid. We got these every place I've ever worked, union or not.
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"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
Greediest country on earth so it's no big shockerUnions are what made the American middle class. They're a blunt instrument but sometimes you have to take the negatives with the positives.
Hockey Guy I believe is in Canada so just because of that he'll be better off than an American doing the same work. No other industrialized country allows companies to treat workers they way they do in the USA.
You get it which is nice to see.
Lot's of people can't seem to figure simple things like this out on their own.
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Surprised to hear that you made more when working non union. Zero chance any non union ironworker here in the u.s is making more than local 1 ironworkers.My benefit package & wages at my last job(non-union) was actually way better than this one but that was an oilpatch job so they are not really comparable. Still, my benefit package & job stability are the most important reason I took the job & I'm not saying I hate my job at all. I took well over a 50% paycut so I had a stable job close to home that had decent benefits. After working for 14 years away from home, money came 3rd in importance although I still make just decent money instead of obscene.
It actually amazes me how bad some worker's attitude about stuff is because this is my first union job. I've had discussions & had guys straight up admit they'd never make the money they're making with their level of education anywhere else close to home. I've also tried to impress on new hires how lucky they were to be working there but they don't listen & most of them are let go before their 3 month probation period ends because they treat the job like it's MacDonalds or something. It's pretty sad.
You're also correct about the safety thing. The union is good for insuring that & having your back.
As for OSA, I must be in a shitty union because we only get 2 paid 15 minute coffee breaks & only .5 hours for lunch, unpaid. We got these every place I've ever worked, union or not.
I have a seen a lot of guys start the apprenticeship and quit a week or two into it.
It's tough work and in all honestly most people just can't handle that type of work.I never shamed anyone for quitting, it's hard and dangerous and some people just aren't cut out for that regardless of how much they are being paid. We worked in the heat and the cold and then on top of that you have the physical aspect + the health risks.
As far as breaks go we get one 15 minute break in between start time and lunch but it would usually be 20 mins or so depending on who you're working for and what's going on that day.
45 minute unpaid lunch.
No holiday pay no sick days.
There are 100's of different contractors who are signatory with local 1 which is a good thing.
lol DEMONRATS, trump was OBVIOUSLY being sarcastic when he misspelled nobel and also when he confused a nobel prize with a pulitzer.
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