OSA, bring something to the conversation. don't just tell me to google it.
OSA, bring something to the conversation. don't just tell me to google it.
boris "coronavirus is no big deal i just shook hands with an entire hospital ward of victims" johnson has been diagnosed with coronavirus.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
Ill post something but its probably something you already seen so I dont see the point but here goesOriginally Posted by blake
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/bi...navirus-tests/
Trump is handling this crisis the same way he handled problems with his casinos. How’d that work out, Trumptards?The American refusal to use available testing to people who clearly show all the signs of covid-19 are no different than the Chinese fudging of numbers, and its disingenuous to claim otherwise, IMO. The federal government has set clear guidelines on who to test and who not to test given available resources, and those with all the symptoms are, over and over again, denied available tests. Even people who died as a direct result of covid-19 aren't being tested, so as to keep the death toll down. This is a fact. Tests are available for this purpose, but they are not being used for this purpose.
The inability to get tested starts at the December 2019 meeting just before Christmas where the president was told exactly what was going on in China so far and the obvious eventuality of what was going to happen around the world. People crow about 'nobody knew what was going to happen,' except everything that has happened has happened according to the pandemic numbers that many, many people had warned about in recent years. The inherent threat was why the last administration created a new branch of govt to specifically address pandemics, but Trump closed shop on that a few years ago, because he closed everything Obama opened, because that's what Trump does. That's not even arguable.
Our government was offered a massive amount of tests from the WHO when this shit first started getting out of control, but we refused them, so we could come up with our own. Think about that shit for a second. We were given the option of fully operational, known to be accurate tests, developed by Germany I think, but we passed them up, so we could come up with our own. That's a decision that kills people. There's no real argument there. We could have gotten ahead of the thing, but we (by executive decision) got behind the thing, and denied the thing the entire time. We started making tests MONTHS after we could have started. We could have had the South Korea response, hell, he could have had the best response in the world given our resources, but we did not and we do not.
Do you know how many tests we could have by the end of the month if the president did the right thing and declared it to be the emergency that it is, and used his powers appropriately? We would have had MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF TESTS by now. If we had tests, we would have the correct numbers. If we had the right numbers, people would realize the threat that we actually have. Hell, the pres won't even use his powers to get ventilators to hospitals that need them, nevermind tests.
Bitch about China all you want, this event was foreseen, it was planned for, those plans were torn to shreds and no new plans were made, and now the federal government talks about re-opening everything when everything should be closing.
At this moment, our federal government is handling this threat no better than the Chinese government, and the case can easily be made that we are making it way worse.
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Way to completely ignore the first two paragraphs that call you on your bullshit. Classic Druff can’t ever admit when he’s wrong.Come on.
You really believe people can't get tested now because Trump is holding back tests -- and not because of a lack of tests in the US?
Odds of Toddle recovering from Covid-19 have to be zero, right?
Stubborn Jews have a much higher immune system.
When you are always complaining that you don't feel well, you're baseline is a lot different.
Sky News Australia is doing the rewriting of history.
Hubei officials were the ones doing the hiding, from Beijing!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ening-outward/
"Between Dec. 31 and Jan. 20, China’s National Health Commission (NHC) dispatched three teams of experts to Wuhan. The first two teams struggled to gather evidence that the novel coronavirus was transmittable from human to human. They were stymied by local interests intent on keeping the epidemic under wraps"
do you watch serpentza?
Sky News Australia is doing the rewriting of history.
Hubei officials were the ones doing the hiding, from Beijing!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ening-outward/
"Between Dec. 31 and Jan. 20, China’s National Health Commission (NHC) dispatched three teams of experts to Wuhan. The first two teams struggled to gather evidence that the novel coronavirus was transmittable from human to human. They were stymied by local interests intent on keeping the epidemic under wraps"
why do you believe they would do so?
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
The media is awful, should be charged with a crime.
Did you know in Merica
7500 people die each day.
1000 have died of the virus in 3 months.
No one is ruining the economy and losing jobs over sugar.
I am no conspiracy theory but I believe the left media and Dems have used this to attack our great President and if a do nothing democrat was in office this would be sars again and nothing more.
Can you explain what is going on here? I am genuinely curious but can't discern.
what the fuck
what the fuck
his new thing is quoting facebook boomer posts. isnt it edgy and exciting?
super appropriate thread for it.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
1000 have died of the virus in the last 5 days*
The value of life is an interesting thing to think about though. Does the value of each life go down as the total population goes up? Or is it just the chances of you or a loved one dying that matters.
What value do you put on a random persons life, and what does your risk tolerance look like for your own life and people you know.
I've been doing some morbid thought experiments lately.
A: Shut down entire country for 30 days
B: Kill X random people
What's the minimum value of X that would make you choose A?
What about if it were only older sicker people?
What if you knew one of the deaths would someone you've hugged in the last 3 years?
What if it were 3 months, or a year, or a day?
I know current situation is far more complicated, it's just a thought experiment.
Deaths in America as state are now just over 1000.
There are NO shortages of beds or ventilation machines.
Turn off Cuomo and CNN, go outside for a walk and don't spit when you talk.
The propaganda machine works strong on the small minded sheep.
I am in no way saying the virus isn't real or people don't die but no more and in fact far less than other issues we do not shut the darn world down for!
There are people who do this for a living. Do we spend $150 more per car * 1,000,000 cars and use gold widgets in the air bag or do we let 3 people die due to faulty connectors.1000 have died of the virus in the last 5 days*
The value of life is an interesting thing to think about though. Does the value of each life go down as the total population goes up? Or is it just the chances of you or a loved one dying that matters.
What value do you put on a random persons life, and what does your risk tolerance look like for your own life and people you know.
I've been doing some morbid thought experiments lately.
A: Shut down entire country for 30 days
B: Kill X random people
What's the minimum value of X that would make you choose A?
What about if it were only older sicker people?
What if you knew one of the deaths would someone you've hugged in the last 3 years?
What if it were 3 months, or a year, or a day?
I know current situation is far more complicated, it's just a thought experiment.
$150M or 3 * whatever a lawsuit would cost us
It’s semi morbid in these terms but in reality we make these decisions every day.
do you get that at the current growth rate, we'll need ventilators in about 4 hours or is this fake news?
and ugh the "our great president" line
this is some "dear leader" shit right here.
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