lol donkaments

[Dan Druff]

Scene: $1500 NL Holdem at WSOP

I have 5150 (fitting?), blinds are 200/400/50.

Dealt Kd3d in middle position. Folds to me. I make it 800 in attempted blind steal (I had been dealt tons of trash at this table and appeared super tight, btw.)

Cutoff flats. Button flats. SB flats. BB flats.

Flop Kh6s8s

Pot = 4450

Checked to me. I shove my last 4350.

Cutoff thinks for awhile, asks BB (a French recreational player) how much he has behind. French guy has him covered. Cutoff finally flats. Button folds, SB folds. BB shoves all-in.

Cutoff instantly mucks.

BB shows 3s4s

Brick, brick.

Cutoff complains that he had KT.

I win the hand and go up to 17k instead of busting.

So to recap, I shoved with K3 on K high flop, was called with KT, didn't improve, and won the hand.

[sah_24]

Weeee !

[michael]

Good luck Druff!

[shortbuspoker]

K3 off is the hand that got me nicknamed Shortbus at the casino

[thesparten]

So another words I would have a chance?

[DonaldTrumpsHairPiece]

Tyde is that you?

[michael]

Such a tiny raise, were people getting away with that at the table?

Also , props to naked flush draw for getting the best hand outta there for ya

[simpdog]

And druff is out

[simpdog]

Druff I'm interested to hear a response on this:

Cantu moves to your table after dinner. You know he's pretty short and looking to gamble up a big stack. Pros don't like grinding out the 1500's. They need to get a stack or GTFO.

Is it a good move flipping them with AK or pocket pairs? Thoughts?

I'm more risk averse and would just avoid them looking for donkeys and not gambling flips.

[Dan Druff]

Druff I'm interested to hear a response on this:

Cantu moves to your table after dinner. You know he's pretty short and looking to gamble up a big stack. Pros don't like grinding out the 1500's. They need to get a stack or GTFO.

Is it a good move flipping them with AK or pocket pairs? Thoughts?

I'm more risk averse and would just avoid them looking for donkeys and not gambling flips.

This isn't the Main Event. While this event isn't a turbo or a nightly, you also need to take chances once the blinds start to rise. Was already 250/500/75, meaning cost per round was 1425. If you're folding AK to a known crazy aggro guy who only has 7400, you're doing it very very wrong.

The 99 hand after that wasn't as much of a no-brainer. In that case, I opened for 1100 and had 10k left. He shoved his entire 16k all-in. That's again a typical Cantu move. If he had 88, he's doing the same thing. He might even do the same thing with total crap.

At this point I considered maybe folding and waiting for a better spot with my 10k, but decided that 10k was pretty short at this point (average was about 18), and honestly I needed chips anyway. I would have laid down the 99 to a tighter player, but with Cantu I have to gamble and hope he doesn't have a hand (or is dominated).

Don't even regret any of it. Just unlucky.

I lasted 5 hands with my 20k after dinner, which was pretty damn brutal.

Oddly, the one other hand was against an older Australian guy who listens to PFA Radio, who was to my direct left. I opened 1100 in the cutoff with KQo, and he shoved 4750 over me. I decided not to gamble there, because I believe he's pretty tight. I folded, and then got the 99 the very next hand.

The Aussie and his wife really wanted to meet me about 1 1/2 years ago because they had listened to so much radio. I met them, and they were very nice. His wife apparently listens religiously, and found the show because he was listening on speaker. She said she really liked how the show made it easy for non-poker-players to understand the poker stories, so it's the only poker show she listens to.

Anyway, kinda weird that my entire 20k went to a two people who either listen to PFA Radio or were recently on PFA Radio.

[Dan Druff]

Such a tiny raise, were people getting away with that at the table?

Also , props to naked flush draw for getting the best hand outta there for ya

Things have changed, thanks to the internet players constantly analyzing and modifying their games.

Nowadays at the WSOP, the good players are raising anywhere from 2x-2.3x for the most part. The thinking is that you're basically playing small ball -- committing less, keeping pots smaller, and leaving more room to make correct folds. It was discovered that most people who will fold the SB/BB for 2.5-3x will also do it for 2x, so that's the main reason it changed.

I've mostly been doing 2x-2.2x raises at NL tournaments recently.

Today's event was weird for me in several ways. I ran 1900 up to 10k, back down to 5k, and up to 20k, before busting the 20k in 5 hands.

I had AK vs 55 twice. The first time it won on the river to save me and double me up, the second time it lost and I doubled up Cantu.

I had two flips involving AK against Cantu in a period of 5 hands, and lost both -- one time when he had AK, one time when I did.

And then there was the really weird K3 hand. I've never had it occur before where I go all in, get called by a better hand, don't improve, and win.

[Dan Druff]

And to complete the weird barrage of PFA things happening in that span of time, on my way down the hall after busting, I was stopped by a frequent PFA Radio listener who absolutely loves the Call to Listen Line. This was my first time meeting him (he doesn't post on forums or call in).

Then, just as that guy walked off, another guy approached me who lurks on PFA. He thanked me for my "Diamond in a Day" thread on the Casinos & Las Vegas forum here, as he took the advice I gave, went to the best paying machines in Tunica, and immediately hit a $20k royal flush.

[Lord of the Fraud]

You unleashing dirt on anybody tonight?

[Hockey Guy]

K3 off is the hand that got me nicknamed Shortbus at the casino

I thought it was called the Krablar. No idea where that came from other than maybe FCP.

I was playing 3-6 limit at a casino back in the day when I was dealt AA in the BB. 5 players limped to me & I, of course, raised & not surprisingly had 5 callers. Flop came AKKr & I led out & the guy on the button raised & I re-raised everyone else folded & it went to the turn just the 2 of us. Turn was a blank & we got a few more bets in before a K spiked on the river & he took down the pot after I called & he showed K-3os.

He laughed & said he had to play the "Krablar" & I just laughed because I actually knew what he meant & nobody else at the table had any idea what the fuck we were talking about.

True story.

[michael]

It was discovered that most people who will fold the SB/BB for 2.5-3x will also do it for 2x, so that's the main reason it changed.

That makes sense. My first thought was the bb was gonna instacall anything

[Dan Druff]

You unleashing dirt on anybody tonight?

Nope.

I wasn't that close to the money. About 600-something people were left when I busted, and the money started at like 250th or so. Had awhile to go.

Also, I never had chips in this except for a very short period of time right before and right after dinner. So it felt like I was fucked most of the way, followed by brief hope, followed by busting.

It is irritating that I ran up my stack TWICE after being in bad shape to about average, but that's donkaments for ya.

I am much less frustrated than when I bubbled on Tuesday.

I do hope I don't end up batting .000 for the first WSOP ever. I'm now 0/3 (0/4 if you count the fail "Giant" event, which I don't), and have 5 events left. I have cashed at least once in each of the 12 WSOPs I played from 2005 to 2016. Interestingly, I haven't yet benefited from the change of 15% cashing (used to be 10%). Every cash I've had has been a top 10% finish.

[michael]

You unleashing dirt on anybody tonight?

Nope.

I wasn't that close to the money. About 600-something people were left when I busted, and the money started at like 250th or so. Had awhile to go.

Also, I never had chips in this except for a very short period of time right before and right after dinner. So it felt like I was fucked most of the way, followed by brief hope, followed by busting.

It is irritating that I ran up my stack TWICE after being in bad shape to about average, but that's donkaments for ya.

I am much less frustrated than when I bubbled on Tuesday.

I do hope I don't end up batting .000 for the first WSOP ever. I'm now 0/3 (0/4 if you count the fail "Giant" event, which I don't), and have 5 events left. I have cashed at least once in each of the 12 WSOPs I played from 2005 to 2016. Interestingly, I haven't yet benefited from the change of 15% cashing (used to be 10%). Every cash I've had has been a top 10% finish.

Will you be in town next week? I'd love to meet you, and I think some members may have sent you money too for me to get a room

[Dan Druff]

Nope.

I wasn't that close to the money. About 600-something people were left when I busted, and the money started at like 250th or so. Had awhile to go.

Also, I never had chips in this except for a very short period of time right before and right after dinner. So it felt like I was fucked most of the way, followed by brief hope, followed by busting.

It is irritating that I ran up my stack TWICE after being in bad shape to about average, but that's donkaments for ya.

I am much less frustrated than when I bubbled on Tuesday.

I do hope I don't end up batting .000 for the first WSOP ever. I'm now 0/3 (0/4 if you count the fail "Giant" event, which I don't), and have 5 events left. I have cashed at least once in each of the 12 WSOPs I played from 2005 to 2016. Interestingly, I haven't yet benefited from the change of 15% cashing (used to be 10%). Every cash I've had has been a top 10% finish.

Will you be in town next week? I'd love to meet you, and I think some members may have sent you money too for me to get a room

I am leaving after the $10k Limit (whenever that ends for me, latest will be Wednesday), but will return on June 26.

Will you still be here then?

And yes, I have $50 for you. How would you like me to send it?

[michael]

Will you be in town next week? I'd love to meet you, and I think some members may have sent you money too for me to get a room

I am leaving after the $10k Limit (whenever that ends for me, latest will be Wednesday), but will return on June 26.

Will you still be here then?

And yes, I have $50 for you. How would you like me to send it?

ugggh, I think I leave on the 26th, not sure what time.

Could you give it to Brandon?

edit*unless i final table, might hang out if that happens

[Lord of the Fraud]

You unleashing dirt on anybody tonight?

Nope.

I wasn't that close to the money. About 600-something people were left when I busted, and the money started at like 250th or so. Had awhile to go.

Also, I never had chips in this except for a very short period of time right before and right after dinner. So it felt like I was fucked most of the way, followed by brief hope, followed by busting.

It is irritating that I ran up my stack TWICE after being in bad shape to about average, but that's donkaments for ya.

I am much less frustrated than when I bubbled on Tuesday.

I do hope I don't end up batting .000 for the first WSOP ever. I'm now 0/3 (0/4 if you count the fail "Giant" event, which I don't), and have 5 events left. I have cashed at least once in each of the 12 WSOPs I played from 2005 to 2016. Interestingly, I haven't yet benefited from the change of 15% cashing (used to be 10%). Every cash I've had has been a top 10% finish.

I get 0/8 would sting considering the stakes, time and expenses. And you don't need me to tell you 0/8 is some pretty standard variance.

But get that thought of 'never failing to cash' out of your head... Considering you don't play a huge volume of tournaments. If you go your whole life with cashing in at least one event. It probably means you've died early.

The whiff is coming sooner or later.