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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Ever since the beginning of the war on police by Obama and friends (known as "The Ferguson Effect"), crime has spiked up in major US cities, with the trend continuing that way. This was after 23 straight years of decreased crime.

    Trump is correct to want to take action.
    Not really. If you bother to put things in perspective by looking at the per capita numbers of murders from 2016.

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    Or look at the five year averages.

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    Most people can reach the conclusion that the 12th most deadliest city hitting their 19th deadliest year doesn't require any kinda special attention.

    That said Chicago PD is most likely kinda shit these days.

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    At the height of the crack epidemic they were able clear almost 3 times as many murders as they are today. You can't see the years 2013-16 from that chart but they were all fairly close to the 2012 numbers, bout 25% when the national average is 60%.

     
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    heh the entire senior management layer at the state department just walked off the job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    heh the entire senior management layer at the state department just walked off the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrenadaRoger View Post
    lots of folks say that walls don't work...but defenders point to the western wall in Israel to protect Jerusalem as being an example of an effective one

    thoughts?
    That's a joke, right?

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    Ryan had to literally beg Priebus to not resign this week.

    The wheels are fucking off.

    Pence has to swear in nominees because no one wants their picture taken with Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyde View Post
    LOL @ Mexico's president cancelling Tuesdays meeting

    fucking idiot Mexicans

    Yea that was a brilliant decision from a world 'leader' with basically zero political leverage

    The wall just got 10 feet taller

    fuck Mexico lol
    Go fuck yourself you piece of shit.

     
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    dish, if the republicans oust trump, who are you going to disavow? trump, or the republican party?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    dish, if the republicans oust trump, who are you going to disavow? trump, or the republican party?

    u kidding me, the repubs obv. Im actually a registered democrat, I'm just a "America first" and "politicians are slimy as hell" voter

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    Quote Originally Posted by thesidedish View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    dish, if the republicans oust trump, who are you going to disavow? trump, or the republican party?

    u kidding me, the repubs obv. Im actually a registered democrat, I'm just a "America first" and "politicians are slimy as hell" voter

    i literally would never guessed this in a billion years and now like a million things make sense to me that never did.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Ryan had to literally beg Priebus to not resign this week.

    The wheels are fucking off.

    Pence has to swear in nominees because no one wants their picture taken with Trump.
    you must have got the name wrong or something cause this can't be real. the first two weeks of executive orders are playing out like priebus' wildest fantasy come true

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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Ryan had to literally beg Priebus to not resign this week.

    The wheels are fucking off.

    Pence has to swear in nominees because no one wants their picture taken with Trump.
    you must have got the name wrong or something cause this can't be real. the first two weeks of executive orders are playing out like priebus' wildest fantasy come true

    try to find a screencap of the @WhiteHouseLeak twitter account feed that went live today then vanished.

    for every republican wet dream thats been signed, ten times as many career ender moments have come and gone. people are thinking about what happens to them after trump gets impeached or whatever. priebus may want what he wants but hes smart enough to recognize that being presented it on the edge of trump's bloody sword is at absolute best a pyrrhic victory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
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    so the wall along the Mexican border has been executive ordered today....

    here is what the numbers are for what is proposed:

    1950 miles of US/Mexican border...Trump wants to put up a wall on 1000 miles of it, the rest of the border will get by with the natural barriers. currently there is 700 miles of fence on the border, mostly in California, Arizona & New Mexico...it is estimated that the wall will cost about 6.5 million per mile...$6,500,000,000 all told (the fence is far cheaper per mile)

    the Congress will authorize financing that will ultimately be recovered by higher visa fees for Mexican entering the US and from seizing bank transfers from the US to Mexico made by illegal aliens...that is part of Trumps plan to have Mexico pay

    lots of folks say that walls don't work...but defenders point to the western wall in Israel to protect Jerusalem as being an example of an effective one

    thoughts?
    note that although it costs 6.5m per mile to build, no one has broached the topic of what it will cost to maintain it, or that anyone with a fucking ladder can get over it unless every inch of it is staffed.

    regardless.. about 700k mexicans legally cross the border every year. if you tax each one an extra $5, thats a total profit of $3.5m a year....

    so ok cool we should get that wall paid off in about 1,857 years.

    lets say 1500 years if we somehow find the legal grounds to steal money from illegal aliens.



    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.7ad730d8a051


    psyche! press secretary just said the wall is being paid for by a 20% tax on mexican imported goods.


    brb starting a shell corp with an office in mexico which purchases mexican goods locally, brands them as american, then ships them home with zero wall tax.
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    Think I could get on board with this Senator Lindsey Graham fellow.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of the Fraud View Post
    Think I could get on board with this Senator Lindsey Graham fellow.





    You'd hate his foreign policy, as he's a huge neocon that you hate. Always joined at the hip with McCain. He's a total interventionist, but like you, I find him incredibly entertaining. Just a genteel southern eccentric closeted gay warmonger dandy sipping on a mint julep. Like a character straight out of Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil. I always picture him leaving a cocktail party with cross dressers as the sun rises and telling his driver to take him to church.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post

    psyche! press secretary just said the wall is being paid for by a 20% tax on mexican imported goods.


    brb starting a shell corp with an office in mexico which purchases mexican goods locally, brands them as american, then ships them home with zero wall tax.
    fuck, i love avocados

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of the Fraud View Post
    Think I could get on board with this Senator Lindsey Graham fellow.





    You'd hate his foreign policy, as he's a huge neocon that you hate. Always joined at the hip with McCain. He's a total interventionist, but like you, I find him incredibly entertaining. Just a genteel southern eccentric closeted gay warmonger dandy sipping on a mint julep. Like a character straight out of Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil. I always picture him leaving a cocktail party with cross dressers as the sun rises and telling his driver to take him to church.


    lol reminds me of a certain politician from our own country who was affectionately known as 'Bumbling Boris'.



    But now we just call him Foreign Secretary.




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    Quote Originally Posted by GrenadaRoger View Post
    so the wall along the Mexican border has been executive ordered today....

    here is what the numbers are for what is proposed:

    1950 miles of US/Mexican border...Trump wants to put up a wall on 1000 miles of it, the rest of the border will get by with the natural barriers. currently there is 700 miles of fence on the border, mostly in California, Arizona & New Mexico...it is estimated that the wall will cost about 6.5 million per mile...$6,500,000,000 all told (the fence is far cheaper per mile)

    the Congress will authorize financing that will ultimately be recovered by higher visa fees for Mexican entering the US and from seizing bank transfers from the US to Mexico made by illegal aliens...that is part of Trumps plan to have Mexico pay

    lots of folks say that walls don't work...but defenders point to the western wall in Israel to protect Jerusalem as being an example of an effective one

    thoughts?
    The majority of Mexicans coming into this country illegally are not walking across the border. It's kind of public knowledge but apparently republicans haven't heard, Mexican's are really fucking good at digging tunnels. They are also coming across in a myriad of other ways, most of which do not involve walking. There's also a whole lot of private land on the border. And then there's Texas... Largest proposed imminent domain enforcement in history if this actually happens, which is sadly ironic for Texas voters.

    FOX NEWS BTW...

    Unlike other famous barriers in history such as the Berlin Wall or the Great Wall of China, the U.S. version is not much of a wall. What stands in Texas is fragmented series of fencing, composed of enormous steel bars embedded in concrete close together. The rust-colored thick bars that must reach a height of 18 feet loom over the landscape, forming teeth-like slats that split farmland, slice through backyards, and sever parks and nature preserves.

    There are miles of gaps between segments and openings in the fence itself. As a result of the Secure Fence Act passed in 2006, the government built some 650 miles of wall along the 1,954-mile U.S.-Mexico boundary. While 1,254 miles of that border is in Texas, the state has only some 100 miles of wall.

    Republican presidential candidates insist they'll finish it. But completing the Texas part of the wall would be a daunting task thanks to the border's sheer length, the fact that it sits in the center of the snaking Rio Grande, and because treaties with Mexico prevent either country from constructing within the river's flood plains. And unlike in other southwestern states, most border land in Texas is privately owned.

    Finishing the some 1,300 miles of border fencing would also be costly. According to a 2009 Government accountability report, pedestrian fencing, meant to keep out smugglers and migrants crossing on foot, has run anywhere from $400,000 to $15.1 million per mile, averaging $3.9 million. More recent construction has been even more expensive, with segments constructed in 2008 costing $6.5 million per mile. If kept at this rate, the wall would cost nearly $10 billion to complete just for materials, and challenging geography could bring it much higher.

    "With every twist and turn of the Rio Grande and every steep terrain in Arizona, it would cost easily that much," said Adam Isacson, a border expert for the Washington Office on Latin America.

    Officials overseeing the wall's construction faced a legal and logistical nightmare from the start, according to emails obtained under the Freedom of Information Act and litigation by Denise Gilman, a law professor at the University of Texas. The hundreds of emails, which Gilman shared with The Associated Press, show that from the planning phase some 65 miles of the proposed route sat a half mile to a mile from the border, making it not a true border wall.

    Officials struggled to find places where construction could start fast to meet Congress' deadline of building 255 miles by December 2008. They sought contingency fencing that did not require "significant real estate acquisitions" or cut through sensitive wilderness, the emails show. Wealthy landowners demanded more compensation or refused to allow construction.

    Hundreds of property owners were sued just to build the existing chunks of wall. Some 400 relinquished properties ranging in size from a driveway to commercial lots and farms, costing the government at least $15 million, according to an AP review of land cases in 2012.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...privately.html
    In theory, sure, it sounds great... but in reality (which seems to escape the average Trump supporter most of the time) this wall will most likely be the biggest waste of tax payer money in history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
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    psyche! press secretary just said the wall is being paid for by a 20% tax on mexican imported goods.


    brb starting a shell corp with an office in mexico which purchases mexican goods locally, brands them as american, then ships them home with zero wall tax.
    fuck, i love avocados

    id say you could get by with the ones grown in california but of course, we will have no one to harvest them.
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    ATTENTION MEXICO, HERE'S SOME ADVICE

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