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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    sociopaths sociopathing isnt ok. am i surprised he has the fucking balls to do this in the middle of something thats already killed more people than 9/11? no. but its fucking unbelievable.


    hes part of the checks and balances of government, no american president has ever worked harder to dismantle those checks for their own benefit before.


    people need to understand that this is really dangerous shit.
    The truth most people in american society have never taken an ethics course or even understand what a conflict of interest is. They are too stupid (not ignorant) to understand why this is a problem. The idea of checks and balances to them is something you do at the end of the fiscal year. Democracy's biggest flaw is that it has faith in an inform electorate.

    There are plenty of smart conservatives who get this but won't call Trump out because of a mob mentality it will bring towards them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    sociopaths sociopathing isnt ok. am i surprised he has the fucking balls to do this in the middle of something thats already killed more people than 9/11? no. but its fucking unbelievable.


    hes part of the checks and balances of government, no american president has ever worked harder to dismantle those checks for their own benefit before.


    people need to understand that this is really dangerous shit.
    The truth most people in american society have never taken an ethics course or even understand what a conflict of interest is. They are too stupid (not ignorant) to understand why this is a problem. The idea of checks and balances to them is something you do at the end of the fiscal year. Democracy's biggest flaw is that it has faith in an inform electorate.

    There are plenty of smart conservatives who get this but won't call Trump out because of a mob mentality it will bring towards them.

    they gon' learn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BetCheckBet View Post
    Democracy's biggest flaw is that it has faith in an inform electorate.

    Two things:

    1. We are a republic in part for this reason;
    2. Which is why we originally limited who could vote to land owning white men, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
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    Both houses of Congress dragged feet and hastily passed a bill to get small business loans through the next few weeks/months with no direction or oversight on how it will work.

    CNN:

    TRUMPS business loan program complete failure


    This is why nobody takes this shit seriously anymore.


    the buck stops with him. we dont have a government. people are calling the feds for guidance and no ones picking up the phone, literally.

    if the media covered this halfway objectively he'd have them arrested for sedition and lese majeste.
    The buck 100% stops with him, just ask him he will tell you.

    That said it’s a 350B program that’s been on the books a week. From here it’s guns and butter. Get the money out fast with no oversight and high chance of abuse (we have people on this very site who wanted to open up a business to get in on it) or you can take a week or three and at least try and put some structure around it.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
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    Democracy's biggest flaw is that it has faith in an inform electorate.

    Two things:

    1. We are a republic in part for this reason;
    2. Which is why we originally limited who could vote to land owning white men, etc.

    3. electoral college

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BetCheckBet View Post

    The truth most people in american society have never taken an ethics course or even understand what a conflict of interest is. They are too stupid (not ignorant) to understand why this is a problem. The idea of checks and balances to them is something you do at the end of the fiscal year. Democracy's biggest flaw is that it has faith in an inform electorate.

    There are plenty of smart conservatives who get this but won't call Trump out because of a mob mentality it will bring towards them.

    they gon' learn.
    the hard way

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheXFactor View Post
    Can you imagine how uncomfortable he was shaking Tyson's hand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BetCheckBet View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    sociopaths sociopathing isnt ok. am i surprised he has the fucking balls to do this in the middle of something thats already killed more people than 9/11? no. but its fucking unbelievable.


    hes part of the checks and balances of government, no american president has ever worked harder to dismantle those checks for their own benefit before.


    people need to understand that this is really dangerous shit.
    The truth most people in american society have never taken an ethics course or even understand what a conflict of interest is. They are too stupid (not ignorant) to understand why this is a problem. The idea of checks and balances to them is something you do at the end of the fiscal year. Democracy's biggest flaw is that it has faith in an inform electorate.

    There are plenty of smart conservatives who get this but won't call Trump out because of a mob mentality it will bring towards them.
    Let's say these so-called "smart conservatives" turned on Trump, repeatedly called him out, and were somehow successful in penetrating his armor within the party and seriously hurt his rep.

    Say this caused him to lose the 2020 election, and Democrats knew it.

    Do you think that would cause these now-in-power Democrats to take their foot off the gas regarding transgender 3-year-olds, 8.5-month abortion rights, zero dollar bail for violent criminals, full gun control, socialized medicine, and complete student loan forgiveness?

    Answer: No, this would just embolden them more to pursue this stuff.

    That's the real reason most conservatives don't speak out against Trump. They're terrified of enabling the alternative.

     
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    One America News, or OAN, is a far-right news network being embraced by President Trump at his coronavirus press briefings

    Has anyone ever heard of this news network before?


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BetCheckBet View Post

    The truth most people in american society have never taken an ethics course or even understand what a conflict of interest is. They are too stupid (not ignorant) to understand why this is a problem. The idea of checks and balances to them is something you do at the end of the fiscal year. Democracy's biggest flaw is that it has faith in an inform electorate.

    There are plenty of smart conservatives who get this but won't call Trump out because of a mob mentality it will bring towards them.
    Let's say these so-called "smart conservatives" turned on Trump, repeatedly called him out, and were somehow successful in penetrating his armor within the party and seriously hurt his rep.

    Say this caused him to lose the 2020 election, and Democrats knew it.

    Do you think that would cause these now-in-power Democrats to take their foot off the gas regarding transgender 3-year-olds, 8.5-month abortion rights, zero dollar bail for violent criminals, full gun control, socialized medicine, and complete student loan forgiveness?

    Answer: No, this would just embolden them more to pursue this stuff.

    That's the real reason most conservatives don't speak out against Trump. They're terrified of enabling the alternative.
    Other than the fact that mainstream Democrats aren't advocating for any of these things, this post is totally accurate.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    Let's say these so-called "smart conservatives" turned on Trump, repeatedly called him out, and were somehow successful in penetrating his armor within the party and seriously hurt his rep.

    Say this caused him to lose the 2020 election, and Democrats knew it.

    Do you think that would cause these now-in-power Democrats to take their foot off the gas regarding transgender 3-year-olds, 8.5-month abortion rights, zero dollar bail for violent criminals, full gun control, socialized medicine, and complete student loan forgiveness?

    Answer: No, this would just embolden them more to pursue this stuff.

    That's the real reason most conservatives don't speak out against Trump. They're terrified of enabling the alternative.
    Other than the fact that mainstream Democrats aren't advocating for any of these things, this post is totally accurate.
    Mainstream Democrats are actually Republicans now. If you are not 'woke' you are not a Democrat. You want to know why Joe Biden is going to lose in spectacular fashion? Because there is not a 'woke' liberal who is going to wait in line for two hours to vote for him with the corona.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by tgull View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post

    Other than the fact that mainstream Democrats aren't advocating for any of these things, this post is totally accurate.
    Mainstream Democrats are actually Republicans now. If you are not 'woke' you are not a Democrat. You want to know why Joe Biden is going to lose in spectacular fashion? Because there is not a 'woke' liberal who is going to wait in line for two hours to vote for him with the corona.
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    There's going to be another relief bill. The Democrats want universal vote by mail for the general election, and tried to get it into the last bill. A good way to have an election and social distance at the same time.

    Trump has helpfully explained why the Republicans are against this:

    "The things they had in there were crazy. They had things, levels of voting that if you'd ever agreed to it, you'd never have a Republican elected in this country again."

    A Georgia state legislator chimed in that it would be "extremely devastating to Republicans and conservatives in Georgia."

    Republican opposition to making voting easier is about disenfranchising people and cheating to win. There is no other purpose.

     
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    This shit goes both ways:

    JOE BIDEN: “We cannot let this, we’ve never allowed any crisis from the Civil War straight through to the pandemic of 17, all the way around, 16, we have never, never let our democracy sakes second fiddle, way they, we can both have a democracy and ... correct the public health.”



     
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    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    I expect to wake up from this nightmare any moment now back in 2003, watching the WSOP main event on TV.

    But instead of Chris Moneymaker winning, Sammy Farha plays the perfect game and shows the world what a terrible player Moneymaker is. Poker boom never happens. Now hopefully President Trump will never happen too.



     
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    out of rep ^^ LOL

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    This is probably stupid of me to ask...

    But does Druff care about corruption in the federal government administration anymore???

    Oversight erased, Supreme Court hijacked: Trump turns the presidency into a dictatorship
    https://apple.news/A6bTxdEPLTBG5KfR5niuVFQ

    When former Vice President Joe Biden entered the Democratic presidential race a year ago, he introduced the now familiar theme that the “soul of this nation” was at stake in the 2020 election. Judging by what we’ve seen from President Donald Trump over the past few days, Biden is right.

    It began Friday night, when Trump informed Congress that he was firing MIchael Atkinson, the Intelligence Community’s inspector general. This was nothing more than a vile act of political retribution that had been months in the making. Atkinson fulfilled his legal responsibilities by informing Congress about a whistleblower complaint that exposed Trump’s impeachable crimes. What everyone else recognizes as following the letter of the law, the president views as cause for termination.

    On Monday, Trump turned his attention to the inspector general who oversees the Department of Health and Human Services, who had just released a report revealing the extent to which hospitals were struggling to meet the health care demands associated with treating COVID-19 patients. The thorough review included interviews from 323 hospitals across 46 states and stood in stark contrast with the rhetoric coming from the president. Naturally, Trump labeled the report a “Fake Dossier” and suggested “politics” influenced it.

    Irony is alive, oversight is dead

    On Tuesday, the president removed Pentagon Inspector General Glenn Fine. He had just been designated to oversee the newly created Pandemic Response Accountability Committee, a watchdog panel authorized by Congress to conduct oversight of the $2.2 trillion coronavirus relief bill. The same day, Trump said he had seven IGs in his sights — prompting Sen. Chris Murphy to announce he would draft a bill to “give all Inspectors General protected 7 year terms.”

    The irony here is that Republicans once cautioned about this exact thing before Trump infected them and they abandoned every principle they once proclaimed to stand for. There was a time when oversight over massive government spending was the centerpiece of the Republican oversight agenda. My former boss and House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa actually declared that “This money, at the American people’s expense, going through the hands of political leaders, in in fact corrupting the process.” He literally called the Obama administration “the most corrupt government in history.” Where are those Republicans now?
    Seriously... Where are those Republicans now???
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