The truth about the Chinamaniac/Animosity situation

[FRANKRIZZO]

I actually think you are indeed that stupid. You used your real name on a forum and then you posted you tube where you had your kids and personal info. One would think you would have learned the first time. How do you explain the st joeseph connection , pure coincidence I suppose.

How do I explain that 3 people out of 80,000 residence of the city I used to live in post on PFA? I dont even understand the question. Everyone involved has admitted the entire time we all live in the same town. Do you think you caught us? Gotcha?

WTF dude, youre seriously obsessed

Time to kick a welchers, scammers ass out of town! Unless you pay the 7 plus bills you owe

[jsearles22]

Okay, enough is enough here.

I'm sure Lannister and jsearles are enjoying the massive dog and pony show they created with this. Now I see that they're trying to attack Brandon, for the horrible "crime" of revealing that jsearles once told him privately that he was fookame.

I have been criticized by outsiders to this community at times, who claim that PFA's existence itself is hypocritical since scams have been committed by members of this forum.

I always counter with, "I can't control everything that happens between members here. Scams are inevitable on a poker forum. Every scammer we've had is no longer a member of this community."

And that's almost true. Templar is gone. cla is gone. Jasep is gone.

The only one we have left is jsearles -- and he was also gone for quite some time. But he's back now, as is Lanniser/Animosity (who originally ran off voluntarily after his Boris scam was outed), and it's important to establish if these two indeed perpetrated a second scam. If so, it would be irresponsible of me to allow them to continue here.

So let's break this down in a direct and bullshit-free manner...

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1) Animosity admits that he asked China for a $215 transfer on Pokerstars, in trade for Full Tilt money, and that China was never paid back. Neither side disputes this. So there's no question that China got screwed by Animosity in some way. Agreed

2) Animosity claims that his transfer was for his friend fookame, and not him. Therefore, when China ultimately got rolled, it was fookame's fault, and not his. I find this to be a laughable explanation. When you ask someone for a loan or money trade, and you make no indication at the time that you're simply being an agent for a third party, the loan/trade is for you. This is more than just a vouch. This is completely your responsibility, legally and morally. So there is no question that Animosity owes China $215. Agreed

3) Animosity admits that he "ducked out" on China when asked about the $215, and abandoned at least two different accounts on both Boris and this forum, in order to dodge this relatively small debt. He claims that "in hindsight he knows how stupid that was", yet has still not offered to pay back the money. Agreed

4) jsearles has claimed both publicly and privately to actually be fookame. He has since taken this claim back, saying that he was just trolling. However, this situation is quite odd, especially the private claims he made to Brandon when the two were texting frequently as e-buddies at the time. The name fookame was not chosen by jsearles randomly to claim who he was. Either he knew fookame well, or fookame actually was Lannister/Animosity, or (most likely) fookame was jsearles himself. I knew what Lannister told me. Fookame was an old school NWP poster who I could assume because he was in jail. Thats it. I didnt even learn of the $215 until later

5) Neither Lannister nor jsearles will identify fookame or provide his name, other than claiming his name is "Brian", and pointing to some thread where fookame supposedly posted pictures of himself on a boris thread. But those pictures mean nothing, and could have been easily lifted from someone's Facebook page or elsewhere. We have no proof that fookame exists, and it is peculiar that they will not provide his name if he was the one responsible for rolling China. I dont know his name. I only learned this "Brian" today with everyone else

6) And then there's this... a post on Donkdown from 2010 by DirtyB: http://www.donkdown.com/forums/topic...or-old-losers/

A number of people have used the NWP to DD transition to try and create new identities, having realized that their previous ones were huge failures.

Riboflavin is Bottomset69’s third or fourth account.
Union Jack is Secretpoliceman.
Jules is posting from St. Joseph/Kansas City, MO. A search for “St. Joseph” shows that Fookame and Animosity listed that as their location when begging for stakes.

Who else?

EDIT: Jules is Fookame.

7) I do not recall a time on any forum when both fookame and jsearles22 were active simultaneously. This makes it even more likely that fookame = jsearles.
Ive clarified this 100x. I assumed Fookames name because I knew he was gone per the info Lannister gave me. So of course we have posted at the same time.
Go back and look at writing style. Grammar, spelling, punctuation, phrasing, content, etc. Ive not even done this but I bet it would provide further proof Im not Fookame


So let's make it even simpler:

1) Animosity asked for $215 from China in a poker site money trade, receive it, and ran off without paying YES

2) Animosity blames it on the mysterious "fookame", whom he claims to have "met through the forums", yet just happened to live in St. Joseph, MO like both he and jsearles. YEP

3) jsearles has recently claimed both publicly and privately to have been fookame. I did do that

4) Neither Animosity nor jsearles will identify who fookame is. I dont know his name. Lannister revealed it today

5) Neither Animosity nor jsearles will pay back the $215 owed to China. Why would I pay back China?

6) jsearles still will not pay the $500 he has owed to vegas1369 for 4 years. Not even going to open this can right now


Sorry, but it would take an idiot to conclude anything else but the fact that both jsearles and Animosity were BOTH in on this rolling, and that one of the two (probably jsearles) was fookame.


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I have decided that both jsearles22 and Lannister/Animosity will be banned here UNLESS both of the following occur:

1) fookame's name is outed, and he is determined to be a real person. (Simply giving a name is not enough. We will identify if this person is real and contact him about this matter.)

2) $215 is immediately shipped to either me or Chinamaniac

3) At least $200 is paid toward vegas1369, with the other $300 promised in the near future at a timetable we will set together. I am now making this a requirement because it seems that this was not just a "one time slip" which was forgiven, but rather indicative of a pattern with you guys.


If you are not interested in doing the above, you will both be banned, and any future accounts you make here will be banned and have any new messages deleted.

Furthermore, regarding the $55 owed to jsearles22, while he won it while in good standing, I am currently of the belief that he either committed or assisted (HUH? HOW CAN i COMMIT OR ASSIST A SCAM THAT OCCURED YEARS BEFORE I EVER HEARD OF THE FORUMS????)in a $215 scam of Chinamaniac in the past. Had I known that at the time, he would not have been eligible. Therefore, he will not be receiving the $55, which will either go back into the community (if we receive the $215) or be shipped half to vegas1369 and half to Chinamaniac if we never receive the $215 (which is likely).

It especially bothers me that you guys are still not approaching this honestly (EXCEPT WE BOTH ARE, BELIEVE IT OR NOT), nor are you offering to make it right. Instead, I am seeing you attacking other people and trying to run interference on the situation, rather than directly deal with it an answer simple questions. So not only did you guys roll China here, but you are both getting off on the attention you're getting from it. This will be ending very shortly.

So let it be written, so let it be done.

[FRANKRIZZO]

Pay back the 500 and 215 and you can redeem yourself at least jsearless

[big dick]

you guys really take these forums seriously ^^ who the fuck takes the time to do all that?

[FRANKRIZZO]

you guys really take these forums seriously ^^ who the fuck takes the time to do all that?

says the dude with 3000 posts

[big dick]

all short posts. you don't see me writing novels do you? faggot

[Dan Druff]

Regarding the video which started this whole mess, I think that they didn't realize the Chinamaniac $215 situation would create such a stink, since it happened years ago and was very little-discussed on the forums until now.

When they made the video, they probably thought this was going to be the big reveal that Lannister was a real person (and the one behind a popular/similar video about Micon in the past), and that the China situation would either be ignored or just mentioned in passing. Or perhaps they were so excited about this "reveal" that they completely forgot about the China rolling for the moment.

It's hard to give either of them much credit for anything else. Remember, jsearles was dumb enough to post the video from the same YouTube account where he had videos of his kids, so obviously these aren't the sharpest minds who consider all consequences before doing things.

Lololololol hahahahah Are you really that stupid? You think this was an accident? China RECOGNIZED MY VOICE IN A RADIO CALL. I have a previous video that we posted in the thread WITH MY FACE.

You really think I didn't know this was all gonna happen? Jesus Christ!! hahahahah

Also, you keep asking me to provide names and proof and go out of my way to verify this story when I have repeatedly told you I don't give a fuck if you believe it or not. I told the true story of what happened and that's good enough for me.

Apparently you are too much of an autistic retard to just ban me like you've been threatening. Your Detective skills are top notch. I was just able to locate fookame by looking for him on Facebook and you think it's a 5 year old fake boris meet up scam from Boris.

hahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaahhahah

Ban me, Faggot.

You mean you were able to "locate" him by looking for someone in Independence named Brian, and picked one of them to be fookame.

Still waiting for you to indicate why you can't or won't pay $215 that you scammed from someone.

Before I ban you, can you at least tell us if you're just flat broke or a piece of shit?

Because LOL at not being able to come up with $215 at your age.

But let's face it... I think it's more "won't" than "can't".

Pathetic that a guy in his 30s is so proud of ripping off a well-meaning person of $215 that he won't even make it right six years later.

It's not trolling or lulzy or funny. It's just sad.

[FRANKRIZZO]

all short posts. you don't see me writing novels do you? faggot

[RealTalk]

These aren't just "friends actions".

1) You rolled vegas1369 for $500 in a bet welch

2) You have admitted to being fookame, who both you and Animosity now claim was the one that scammed China. And fookame is the only other St. Joseph, MO poster in the 12-year history of these forums besides you and Animosity. And you and fookame have never been active at the same time. If this is just all an unfortunate coincidence, you still have the option of posting fookame's name for everyone to see.

3) You were only in "good standing" to win the $55 because your role in that past scam was not known at the time. Now that it's known, I am retroactively taking away that good standing, as I would for any scammer.

If you are so convinced Im Fookame, Im not sure what I can do to change your mind in that matter? Ive been 100% honest and forthcoming in this thread. My story here is all true. Let me summarize it for you again. I met Anomosity, he pointed me to the forums. This was well after the China/Fookame scam. Id never heard of Fookame. I created an account on DD using my own name. Would an old school shit slinging NWP member do that? Seriously? No, i was new to the forums and naive. I had no idea the shit storm I was stepping into Over 3 years later Lannister & I concocted this plan to claim I was fookame. It was done to tilt people, like Vegas and Sonatine. At that time I had no idea Fookame was the culprit. Yes I became aware of this later and didnt say anything. Im guilty of that. But Im not Fookame. I will never admit to being Fookame. I dont know Fookame in real life. I never met him, dont know his real name. Even the name Brian revealed earlier today was news to me. Thats the honest truth. You think Im lying about everything. I cant change that I guess. But Im being honest about everything here.

So now you believe that later "we" threw the blame on someone I openly and as recently as a few days prior claimed to being? Do you honestly think I am that stupid? You may dislike me, you may have a lot to say about me, but even Im not that fucking stupid.

You have already acknowledged that you were a borderline drooler when you first joined the forums using your real name. You weren't smart enough to adjust your privacy settings on Facebook to protect the privacy of your wife/kids/job. You also didn't know the difference between then/than until your 30s. You argue with Druff about who is more obese and brag about almost having a 6-pack when you are clearly a fat sack of shit.(seriously how fucking fat are you now?) You post videos from a YouTube account that links back to videos of your children on a degenerate poker forum known for blowing up spots.

To top everything off you admitted one of your reasons for taking credit for the fookame account was to fit in more and appear old school/gain e-cred within the community.

These are not the actions of an intelligent man. Best case scenario is that you have mild autism.

[Dan Druff]

jsearles, I just don't believe you.

Amazingly your appearance coincides with fookame's disappearance.

And you claimed to be him, both publicly and privately.

Again, it's one thing to claim it publicly to troll sonatine, or whatever. But you told this to Brandon privately when having a conversation completely unrelated to sonatine or any of the other trolling here.

And you're all from St. Joseph.

fookame vanishes, you appear, both of you were good friends with Animosity, and somehow you and fookame never crossed paths because he "went to jail" (lol).

I mean... come on... you realize how ridiculous this sounds?

There have been two and only two people from St. Joseph, MO active on these forums at once. For awhile it was Animosity and fookame, and then it was Animosity and jsearles. And to top it all off, jsearles later ADMITS to having been fookame.

But somehow it wasn't you.

Uh huh.

[jsearles22]

If you are so convinced Im Fookame, Im not sure what I can do to change your mind in that matter? Ive been 100% honest and forthcoming in this thread. My story here is all true. Let me summarize it for you again. I met Anomosity, he pointed me to the forums. This was well after the China/Fookame scam. Id never heard of Fookame. I created an account on DD using my own name. Would an old school shit slinging NWP member do that? Seriously? No, i was new to the forums and naive. I had no idea the shit storm I was stepping into Over 3 years later Lannister & I concocted this plan to claim I was fookame. It was done to tilt people, like Vegas and Sonatine. At that time I had no idea Fookame was the culprit. Yes I became aware of this later and didnt say anything. Im guilty of that. But Im not Fookame. I will never admit to being Fookame. I dont know Fookame in real life. I never met him, dont know his real name. Even the name Brian revealed earlier today was news to me. Thats the honest truth. You think Im lying about everything. I cant change that I guess. But Im being honest about everything here.

So now you believe that later "we" threw the blame on someone I openly and as recently as a few days prior claimed to being? Do you honestly think I am that stupid? You may dislike me, you may have a lot to say about me, but even Im not that fucking stupid.

You have already acknowledged that you were a borderline drooler when you first joined the forums using your real name. You weren't smart enough to adjust your privacy settings on Facebook to protect the privacy of your wife/kids/job. You also didn't know the difference between then/than until your 30s. You argue with Druff about who is more obese and brag about almost having a 6-pack when you are clearly a fat sack of shit.(seriously how fucking fat are you now?) You post videos from a YouTube account that links back to videos of your children on a degenerate poker forum known for blowing up spots.

To top everything off you admitted one of your reasons for taking credit for the fookame account was to fit in more and appear old school/gain e-cred within the community.

These are not the actions of an intelligent man. Best case scenario is that you have mild autism.

Fucking wish I could dispute any of this.....................

Well Druff seems to have made up his mind. It is what it is I guess. I dont want to be banned, but it seems inevitable. Id be remiss if after all these years, all these shenanigans, all the humor, entertainment, trolling, etc that Ive provided I didnt at least leave you all with a

[FRANKRIZZO]

que the laugh track

[Pooh]

Searles doesn't deserve to be banned for the recent bs. He isn't fookeme or whatever the fuck his name is. No way no how. Lannister has to go though. That guy is pure garbage.

[jsearles22]

jsearles, I just don't believe you.

Amazingly your appearance coincides with fookame's disappearance.

And you claimed to be him, both publicly and privately.

Again, it's one thing to claim it publicly to troll sonatine, or whatever. But you told this to Brandon privately when having a conversation completely unrelated to sonatine or any of the other trolling here.

And you're all from St. Joseph.

fookame vanishes, you appear, both of you were good friends with Animosity, and somehow you and fookame never crossed paths because he "went to jail" (lol).

I mean... come on... you realize how ridiculous this sounds?

There have been two and only two people from St. Joseph, MO active on these forums at once. For awhile it was Animosity and fookame, and then it was Animosity and jsearles. And to top it all off, jsearles later ADMITS to having been fookame.

But somehow it wasn't you.

Uh huh.

Listen, Druff, my story is 100% accurate as told. If you dont believe it you dont believe it. Im not sure why its so far fetched though? Lannister knew that guy. He goes to jail. I proclaim Im him. Yes we are all from St Joseph, no one is disputing that.

If you think I had an NWP account, was aware of all the shit storm, personal shit, etc there. Then I rolled China. Then I created an account using my real fucking name, knowing what that would cause, and later admitted I was that guy, Im not changing your mind. So just ban me. Im honestly tired of repeating the same shit. Im not Fookame. You dont believe me. I cant say anything to change your mind.

[chinamaniac]

There are different types of posters. TYDE is the best thread starter in the game. But when it comes to closers TODD is the Mariano Rivera of FINISHING OFF A THREAD.

Todd is god/thread

[Pooh]

Searles, how good of friends are you with lannister, be honest.

[jsearles22]

jsearles, I just don't believe you.

Amazingly your appearance coincides with fookame's disappearance.

And you claimed to be him, both publicly and privately.

Again, it's one thing to claim it publicly to troll sonatine, or whatever. But you told this to Brandon privately when having a conversation completely unrelated to sonatine or any of the other trolling here.

And you're all from St. Joseph.

fookame vanishes, you appear, both of you were good friends with Animosity, and somehow you and fookame never crossed paths because he "went to jail" (lol).

I mean... come on... you realize how ridiculous this sounds?

There have been two and only two people from St. Joseph, MO active on these forums at once. For awhile it was Animosity and fookame, and then it was Animosity and jsearles. And to top it all off, jsearles later ADMITS to having been fookame.

But somehow it wasn't you.

Uh huh.

Also, and I ask because I dont know exactly honestly. Can you provide dates when Fookame last posted, this China thing happened, and I showed up on DD? Again, not trolling at all or any angle. I think answering those questions might shed more light towards me being innocent. I only ask because above you imply these were seamless

[Pooh]

I guess, in retrospect, making that video was a

[jsearles22]

Searles, how good of friends are you with lannister, be honest.

Pretty good friends, honestly. We talk 2-3x per week. He moved away last year so we dont hang out as much anymore

[RealTalk]

In searles defense, I will say I don't think anyone that ever posted or lurked the forums(specifically boris) would ever mistake fookame with jsearles