Thought this would be a good thread for my american friends.
If looking for refurbished electronics... I've had good experiences with nmicrovip.CA. would strongly consider looking into them for refurbished products. They are good quality and Americans are hard pressed to find anything cheaper.
Example. 710 USD plus tax and shipping for the computer below
http://www.nmicrovip.ca/rog-core-i7-...b-refurbished/